Don't you want to come out and play?
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I'm a tool because I do not agree with taking a Doe and 2 fawns please?. 14yrs or 40 he should have known better we party hunt but when it comes to anterless tags only the people who own the tag get to fill it. I know if I was party hunting and some dink filled my tag with a Fawn I would freak.
but your right "Ignorance must be bliss"
sjemec,
Excellent posts, thanks for accurately voicing some truths about wildlife in here!
You know, they teach you a lot of this stuff in the CORE course when you get your hunting license, and they even teach you how to read the regulations so you can figure out for yourself what you can get tags for and harvest.
So what's the big problem? If you have the tags then WHEN you use them during the season doesn't matter! In is completely ETHICAL to use them on opening day, or the last day of the season!
Excellent posts, thanks for accurately voicing some truths about wildlife in here!
You know, they teach you a lot of this stuff in the CORE course when you get your hunting license, and they even teach you how to read the regulations so you can figure out for yourself what you can get tags for and harvest.
So what's the big problem? If you have the tags then WHEN you use them during the season doesn't matter! In is completely ETHICAL to use them on opening day, or the last day of the season!
Silly of the woman and in some areas illegal to feed the wildlife. Absurd of her to refer to them as her "pets". They belong to all people of the province and attempting to domesticate deer is foolhardy and dangerous to them. Way to go kid I remember my sons' first deer and the joy on their faces like it was yesterday.
You are so full of b***sh*t I am amazed!
You assume this kid broke some law when there's not even a reason to think that way!
You claim to know deer management when you apparently don't even take time to think about it!
Shooting fawns does NOT hurt the deer population, 1/2 will be buck fawns not much loss to the population there, & the does fawns will take a couple yrs before they even multiply the herd by 1 more! BUT if you shoot a mature doe, you will probably eliminate a pair of fawns each year for those 2 yrs.Do the math 1 female fawn in 2yrs = 1 new fawn for a total of 2 deer.
compared to mature doe + 2 fawns each yr = 1+2+2=5
MNR has been attempting to get hunters to understand these basics facts with moose for years & still have trouble apparently with people like you
AND of course you realize it is illegal to keep deer as pets! or do you?
You SIR are nothing more than a TROLL
Nice to see you've turned the corner!
Mark this as your 1st inteligent post!
Another point, those nice people -->" they have been feeding them to bring them around" I think it's safe to assume those nice people had dogs too, so now they've got those nice tame deer accustomed to being around nice doggy type animals too!
I don't think they had much chance for a long life"You are so full of b***sh*t I am amazed!
You assume this kid broke some law when there's not even a reason to think that way!
You claim to know deer management when you apparently don't even take time to think about it!
Do the math 1 female fawn in 2yrs = 1 new fawn for a total of 2 deer.
compared to mature doe + 2 fawns each yr = 1+2+2=5
MNR has been attempting to get hunters to understand these basics facts with moose for years & still have trouble apparently with people like you
AND of course you realize it is illegal to keep deer as pets! or do you?
You SIR are nothing more than a TROLL
WOW you guys are beating this to death eh?. I have appoligized 3+ times for jumping to conclusions and you just wont let it go.
if your goal is to even out the buck-doe ratio and to keep herd numbers steady or drop them if they are over populated then it doesnt make sence to take a yearling Doe that hasnet had a Fawn then does it?. Like you stated by taking a mature Doe you are eliminating possably 2-3 Doe's from being around the following year much more effective at dropping the doe population if you ask me.
In our area doe tag success rate is running steady at about 92%.
But were not trying to change any buck-doe ratio's, & were not trying to decrease the population(other than to eat
) were trying to increase the deer population. In order to do that shooting bucks & fawns is the way to do it! Our camp has went from 4-5 deer average 10-15 yrs ago to a present day 12-15 deer harvest for 13-15 hunters! No I'm not a bioligist but I know what has worked!For a healthy herd, shooting fawns makes sense. You remove the competition for scarce winter resources yet keep the proven breeders in the population. Shoot the fawns and the doe will replace them the next season so you can shoot them again.
For herd reduction shooting does with fawns would knock the pop down the most since orphaned fawns survival during the winter is significantly reduced.
Depends on what the landowners wants when we thin the herd. This year the farmer wanted less deer so we shot mature does and a hand full of stunted fork horns.
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Wow this thread went downhill really fast!
I've heard worse.
... and you might be getting a tad carreid away with your statements knowing how little you do about the situation.... and from your other posts your knowledge of 'proper' management differs from many others.
And Deer as pets? Now that's ILLEGAL in many areas... so if my neighbour has them maybe it'd be best to shoot them and save her a big fine.
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well they are obviously someones pet. A 14 year old kid I know went hunting for the first time last fall with my gang . Shot a doe and 2 fawns the first morning. He said they were only 10 yards away and they wouldnt run!!!
next day this lady and her daughter come over and asked me " did you guys shoot a doe and 2 fawns lately?? they havnt came around the corn pile in the backyard, they are our pets we feed them" LOL I said nooooope we only shot bucks
Obviously someones pet? Huh? Never seen deer up close or had them come near your home? You must live in Toronto.
I am really curious now if it would be legal anywhere in Canada?
Does anyone know of a province/region/wmu where it would be legal?
Keeping/Raising fenced-in Non-domesticated deer? Not that I know of...
I took a guess that it was 'ok' somewhere at least... now I am as curious as you.
Around me there are bison, elk and WT farms, all the animals have ear tags indicating they are domisticated wildlife. (I am sure that is not the proper agricultural term) But you can't trap wild deer and add them to your herd, they must be offspring.
I am really talking about wildlife that you befriend and domesticate.
I am really talking about wildlife that you befriend and domesticate.
I know of a legal Fallow Deer farm here in BC.
And no I'm not telling where it is, but yes it is very legal, and they are very tasty.
Also they are kept from human contact as much as possible so they stay wary of people.
Which is good as IMHO canned hunts are not sporting or offer fair chaise, but to each his own I guess.
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2nd that I know of one in BC too.
i think it was a great day for the 14 year old, congradulations as far as fawns there delicious ,ya you jumped srt and please dont push your values and camp rules on others,personally ill take the does and fawns,they are like all over our place,we let new hunters take anything in our camp and let others decide what they want to shoot,its not a problem as we have several doe tags each,i would rather eat venison than my tag, if its brown its down,we had a person spray paint adeer orange and put sighns saying dont shoot my pet and opener mornig the school bus nailed it,again congrats on the first deer
