DPMS GII Recon .308

caramel said:
I may get a Recon because i like AR-10 but it would be very surprising that it would be more accurate than my AR-10T or my FNAR, would it shoot .5 to MOA, ( even less than .3 MOA occasionally) if it does, i am all ready there with my rifles... But still, id'e get one... JP.
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It has been posted up by a CGN member(s) that the Recon G2 is sub MOA capable (like your other .308 semi.-auto. rifles mentioned, although IIRC what was posted for the G2 was .7 or .8 sub MOA so not quite as good) however load development and practice possibly could produce a sub .5 MOA group from the G2 on occasion (maybe) like what is realistic from your other .308 semi.-auto. rifles.

However you must understand it's superior ability compared to those rifles you mention (and likely any other AR-10 at this time) is it's CQB performance as a 16" carbine in .308; due to it's better handling/weight distribution and size (feeling more like a AR-15 and less like an AR-10).

If all you are wanting is a .308 semi.-auto. bench-rest shooter you're good to go with what you already have Caramel, but if you want an AR-10 that can shoot sub MOA and work a CQB course like no other AR-10 can; then the DPMS Recon G2 should be your next firearm purchase/investment.

Cheers D
 
The only thing I don't like about this rifle is the price....I'm just not ready to spend that much on a range toy. In any case, I'm still loving my first-gen DPMS LR308. Considering the years of my youth spent lugging an 11-lb FN through the bush, an 8-lb AR doesn't seem too bad [esp. since I'm not lugging it thought the bush].
 
Zeroed-In said:
It has been posted up by a CGN member(s) that the Recon G2 is sub MOA capable (like your other .308 semi.-auto. rifles mentioned, although IIRC what was posted for the G2 was .7 or .8 sub MOA so not quite as good) however load development and practice possibly could produce a sub .5 MOA group from the G2 on occasion (maybe) like what is realistic from your other .308 semi.-auto. rifles.

However you must understand it's superior ability compared to those rifles you mention (and likely any other AR-10 at this time) is it's CQB performance as a 16" carbine in .308; due to it's better handling/weight distribution and size (feeling more like a AR-15 and less like an AR-10).

If all you are wanting is a .308 semi.-auto. bench-rest shooter you're good to go with what you already have Caramel, but if you want an AR-10 that can shoot sub MOA and work a CQB course like no other AR-10 can; then the DPMS Recon G2 should be your next firearm purchase/investment.

Cheers D
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I have no CQB interest, i just drive all my energy on getting the smallest groups possible, at one point, i thought bolt action rifle were the only thing really worth shooting...

Since i discovered the AR Platform both 556 and 308, a world of accurate fancy mecanics got me real fascinated...

For me in shooting this is the ultimate value, all rifles that are accurate beyond average are worth buying for that reason and these become keepers for that... JP.:)
 
Accuracy is important
Ergonomics are important
Weight is important
Size is important
Max range is important
Recoil is important
Ability to shoot accurably with relatively cheap and commonly available ammo is important
Ease to obtain spare parts is important
Price is important
Ability to modify it yourself with a multitude of available options is important
Reliability and durability are important
Non restricted is important, i dont like being on nazi gestapo rcmp confiscate lists.

its a whole lot more than just getting an accurate rifle for me, it has to meet my other factors on my list
 
mikethebike said:
Accuracy is important
Ergonomics are important
Weight is important
Size is important
Max range is important
Recoil is important
Ability to shoot accurably with relatively cheap and commonly available ammo is important
Ease to obtain spare parts is important
Price is important
Ability to modify it yourself with a multitude of available options is important
Reliability and durability are important
Non restricted is important, i dont like being on nazi gestapo rcmp confiscate lists.

its a whole lot more than just getting an accurate rifle for me, it has to meet my other factors on my list
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But mikethebike if your rifle is not accurate, nothing else really matter... A Camaro with one foot wide tires, fancy paint... With a 6 inline is... Kind of a knockoff... JP.:runaway:;)
 
caramel said:
But mikethebike if your rifle is not accurate, nothing else really matter.
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That's not right at all. If all you're doing is shooting from the bench at 100m (and for sure that can be fun and rewarding) then, yes, the intrinsic accuracy of your rifle is quite important. But if you're doing other types of shooting (like maybe closer in, faster shooting from the standing position) it's less important. Things like balance, weight, and general ergonomics will affect performance more than if the gun shoots 0.5 MOA or 2MOA.
 
Master-G said:
That's not right at all. If all you're doing is shooting from the bench at 100m (and for sure that can be fun and rewarding) then, yes, the intrinsic accuracy of your rifle is quite important. But if you're doing other types of shooting (like maybe closer in, faster shooting from the standing position) it's less important. Things like balance, weight, and general ergonomics will affect performance more than if the gun shoots 0.5 MOA or 2MOA.
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Ok do fair enough... JP.:)
 
caramel said:
But mikethebike if your rifle is not accurate, nothing else really matter... A Camaro with one foot wide tires, fancy paint... With a 6 inline is... Kind of a knockoff... JP.:runaway:;)
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im a 1.5 - 1 moa shooter at most and thats benchrest with no coffee and 45 minutes of yoga before. Standing freehand Im a 5-4 moa shooter. Even if the rifle shoots better than 1 moa, I cannot, therefore it does not matter and I should look at other things the rifle has to offer.
 
mikethebike said:
im a 1.5 - 1 moa shooter at most and thats benchrest with no coffee and 45 minutes of yoga before. Standing freehand Im a 5-4 moa shooter. Even if the rifle shoots better than 1 moa, I cannot, therefore it does not matter and I should look at other things the rifle has to offer.
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To each their own, there is no bad answer here, just choices, if my rifles are not at least MOA or better, i have a reason to sell it, FOR ME it's not faufilling it's task... JP.:)
 
caramel said:
To each their own, there is no bad answer here, just choices, if my rifles are not at least MOA or better, i have a reason to sell it, FOR ME it's not faufilling it's task... JP.:)
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So I guess we can expect to see a DPMS Recon G2 in your collection sometime soon then? They're an MOA capable rifle and a semi.-auto. too, so what's to stop you.

(Please post up a range report when able...)

Cheers D
 
Zeroed-In said:
So I guess we can expect to see a DPMS Recon G2 in your collection sometime soon then? They're an MOA capable rifle and a semi.-auto. too, so what's to stop you.

(Please post up a range report when able...)

Cheers D
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Nothing is stopping me... JP.
 
My recon g2 has proven to be quite accurate in my load development.
I've since handicapped the accuracy of it with a 1-4 meopta zd, because with the geissele s3g trigger, lantac brake, 110 grain vmax projectiles and it's inherent light recoil, it is a giggle inducing machine. Spits those 308, 110 grain projectiles at 3100 fps with the same kind of control a .223 with a flash hider has.
People don't even realize it's a 308 most of the time, until the steel plates start flying...
Very much a jack of all trades.

I'm tempted to buy another to be rebarreled with a high quality barrel blank and see how it shoots.
 
Old threat but wanted to update that the pws enhanced buffer tube doesn't work! Others have had issues as well when going to certain milspec buffer tubes. The bolt won't lock back. Either manually or with any mag. Something seems to cause binding and the bolt won't go back far enough.

I went back to the comercial tube. Works perfect again. Locks open now in the 10 round pistol mags and gen3 pmags. But it means I lose my single point QR. I bought a tactical links Z-360 gen 2 QR sling point that fits over the buffer tube end. I made sure the comercial tube wasn't a problem. My sling works perfectly in single point with the GII now. I bought this rifle as a 308 patrol carbine style rather than a DM rifle.

I have a big review coming up on another site so sorry no spoilers. I just wanted to pass on the possible issues with changing out the buffer tube.
 
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