draw and fire one A at 15m

My fastest is 0.88 at 20 yards
My average is about 1.15 to 1.25 at 20 yards
I always practise at 20 Yards never closer
I am a GM shooting open
 
.6 for a draw and 2 A's? That would mean the draw had to be .5 or faster.
A fast draw is cool to see but there is only one draw on a stage or string, an it doesn't always involve a holster or a shot right off the start. So the question is, How important is a 1 second draw? Take a 5 stage 100 round match, all stages are 1 string. So in the match you draw 5 times, take 100 shots and depending on how the stages are set up you reload 5-15 times. Where are you going to see a better return on you practice time? On time saved on a quicker draw, reload, or faster shots/transitions/acquisitions?
I'm not saying don't practice draws just don't neglect other areas just to get the fastest draw.
 
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Madness said:
.6 for a draw and 2 A's? That would mean the draw had to be .5 or faster.
A fast draw is cool to see but there is only one draw on a stage or string, an it doesn't always involve a holster or a shot right off the start. So the question is, How important is a 1 second draw? Take a 5 stage 100 round match, all stages are 1 string. So in the match you draw 5 times, take 100 shots and depending on how the stages are set up you reload 5-15 times. Where are you going to see a better return on you practice time? On time saved on a quicker draw, reload, or faster shots/transitions/acquisitions?
I'm not saving don't practice draws just don't neglect other areas just to get the fastes draw.
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+1 what Madness said. Fast draws are like long drive in golf. Ya they are great to watch but putting wins the game.

IPSC is the same thing fast draws are ok to see but transitions win stage and matches and in most casses I would rather see fast transitions then fast draw.
 
Just remember that the harder you push and the faster you go, the closer you get to the edge. Cross that edge in a match and you end up throwing away a match win to possibly gain what, maybe an extra two tenths of a second on a static draw? Or maybe a fumble followed by a miss or a D hit. A more important question would probably be, "How fast can you CONSISTANTLY draw and fire an A at any given distance?"

I can snatch draw a single at ten to fifteen meters in around .8 second if I warm up to it, but that is a completely useless number as I can't do it....and wouldn't even dream of trying....in a match. In a match, I would be looking at anywhere from a second to 1.2, but that would be a pretty bankable number, and it wouldn't be using a snatch.
 
at 3 -5 metres, maybe a good run of .71-.91. 2 A's.
but average times are around .85. for first shot and a .20 for the second A.

20 metres is a bit different. I work on a fast draw, but take more time for sight picture.
 
I aim for 1.25 at 10 and further, 1.5 at 20-30 and slightly longer for 50yds. getting the first shot in the A is more important than trying to burn rubber. Now of course that's training times, once I hit a match I drop down a bit, but not much.
Oh and I am a GM in Production.
 
SUPERMAG said:
The draw fire 2 A's at .6 secounds was done by one of the posters who already replied was a few years ago and distance was only 1 meter. Maybe he'll remember now.

That years Topgun Director
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It was either Alex or Rob...(if I recall correctly)
 
2 rounds in .6secs....? phew! too be honest, at 3 metres I point and shoot to get a low .6 shot off.
 
Quigley said:
It was either Alex or Rob...(if I recall correctly)
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Back when I was still using the snatch draw exclusively (a thousand years ago), I could indeed get a .6 first shot at one meter. In fact, I could do this out to ten meters or more. With the snatch, If you nail the draw and the gun comes up in the right place you can get under a second out to 30 meters or more but again, so what? It was really just a form of trick shooting, and just a way of massaging the ego. It turned out to be a skill that is not repeatable on demand, so I don't even try it anymore. I think Alex was a little faster though. Better reflexes than me.

Watch to God Squad on the World shoot vids. I bet you don't see a draw of less than a second on any of them. There's too much at stake in a match like that to take stupid risks.
 
relliott said:
Just remember that the harder you push and the faster you go, the closer you get to the edge. Cross that edge in a match and you end up throwing away a match win to possibly gain what, maybe an extra two tenths of a second on a static draw? Or maybe a fumble followed by a miss or a D hit. A more important question would probably be, "How fast can you CONSISTANTLY draw and fire an A at any given distance?"

I can snatch draw a single at ten to fifteen meters in around .8 second if I warm up to it, but that is a completely useless number as I can't do it....and wouldn't even dream of trying....in a match. In a match, I would be looking at anywhere from a second to 1.2, but that would be a pretty bankable number, and it wouldn't be using a snatch.
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I'm going with Rob on this, I can get sub 1 second draws/ shots but most of mine are a little over 1.2 to 1.4 getting A's. It's not worth the risk at this level. At one of the clubs I shoot, one of the guys is always twice as fast as me on the draw, and most of the time a full 2 or 3 seconds faster in a field course, but I win because I hit all the targets.

Speed is nice but you can't perform well when you walk away with 5 or 6 misses.

Oh and I'm a M in Canada, GM in Ontario (but I won't get into that thread) and a M in USPSA. :popCorn:
 
Oh and I'm a M in Canada, GM in Ontario (but I won't get into that thread) and a M in USPSA. :popCorn:[/QUOTE]

Interesting. Mostly, people tell me I have no class at all.
 
relliott said:
Watch to God Squad on the World shoot vids. I bet you don't see a draw of less than a second on any of them. There's too much at stake in a match like that to take stupid risks.
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Hey, your right. Hmm
 
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