Duck hunting for dummies ?

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So I spoke to the cousin last night, looks like him and his dad will try to set me up for some duck hunting once the season opens (again, something always seems to come up). So I brushed up on the regs (non-toxic shot etc...).

The part I'm worried about is what birds I should and what birds I <shouldn't> take a shot at. I know what a "duck" looks like (compared to a seagull, or a sparrow for example) in flight, but once becoming familiar witht he regs, I became painfully aware that there are dozens of species and sub-species of ducks, some of which I need to recognize on the spot and hold my fire when they fly by.

Does anybody have a basic, visual guide of what species I should know better than to shoot at ? What they look like in flight etc ...

I know that if I make a mistake while making a split-second decision, the consequences can be dire.

I've only been "hunting" once before, in one of those "canned" pheasant hunts which is pretty much idiot-proof to begin with.
 
www.whatbird.com will give you IDs for every bird on the planet.

Personally, I learn the 2-3 most common *shootable* birds in the area and don't worry about/don't shoot at the rest. If you can ID a mallard, black duck and teal in your part of Canada that should keep you busy all day!
 
You really need to relax, take a couple of deep breaths, you will learn this stuff as you hunt more and get more experience. Before the season opens, go to a marshy area, with binos and do some bird watching, if you're that concerned.
 
Blacks you have to watch out for as they have the same profile and sounds as a greenhead, but it's easiest to tell by the lack of white bar on the wing patch. Also looks a lot darker when they are flying together. Teals are teals. Widgeon works a bit differently to the spread, plus they'll be peeping no stop. I'm sure your family will let you know before calling the shots as these things are hard to explain in words.
 
Where we hunt, Mallards, woodies and teals are the most common.

Mind you....if they come out of nowhere fast, a Kingfisher can be confusing to the naked eye...
 
I know that if I make a mistake while making a split-second decision, the consequences can be dire.

If you don't know - don't shoot. The ducks will come in pretty close before they're in good shooting range anyways. I generally get them to come in to at least 30 yards and by then they're easy to ID.

If you shoot at them too far away you end up with cripples even if you do hit them and that's no fun for anyone (except maybe a rambunctious lab :))

Going out to a marsh with binos, calls and some decoys ahead of the season can be a lot of fun even though you're not bringing any ducks home. Bring a camera and shoot them with that!

One thing to bare in mind is that once the migration starts, you see species you normally wouldn't - ducks that are leapfrogging south. Find out what species are common in those marshes during the time you'll be out there and look up lots of pictures on the internet.

Females sometimes fly with flocks of other species too, so watch out for them.
 
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/duckdist/index.htm
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/birds/duckdist/index.htm

Look out for cormorants.

Other than that, only practice will help. Just be sure to ID the first few birds you shoot so that you can make sure you stay under the limits for blue wings, blacks and Barrows.

+1 on the cormorants...(if you're on the bigger rivers)

Around here the only thing we really have to worry about is the Black duck count.

D.U. has some good ID charts...or bring a field guide with you.
 
Post-hunt report : Ended up going twice. Being in a rickey old boat with an engine that is massively overpowered in 4 foot waves can be a little scary to some, good thing I've fished all of my life. I think the uncle was trying to test me out.

We saw plenty, shot at several, but only brought down 2 each time.

Birds coming in out of nowhere at weird angles made identification damned near impossible on the fly.

Out of the 4, 3 of them weren't dead by the time they were retrieved, one of which we had to turn the boat around several times since it dove whenever we approached it. Post-mortem autopsy revealed that all of them had received lethal wounds.

I ended up shooting one <confirmed>. There wasn't much activity on the lake so the cousin and I were chatting away when the uncle tapped me on the shoulder "are you boys aware that a duck landed over there about 5 minutes ago ?"
Since it was right in the middle of our decoys that were bobbing around in the waves it took me some time to figure out which one it was with the uncle muttering "shoot it, shoot it !!!" the whole time. Ended up pretty much taking a guess and pulled the trigger .... I shot low, water splashed around and the thing took off right towards us. Racked the shotgun and fired again, this time it was a perfect head shot. Feathers flew and the bird went down, only to rise up and swim away with a significant portion of it's head blown off. We managed to retrieve it. I ended up having to finish it off manually by swinging it around like I had been taught the previous time (they don't teach you about these sorts of things in the hunters course), it took 2 tries for the duck to finally stop breathing, I was afraid that if I swung the thing around too hard i'd end up ripping what was left of it's head off.

Many lessons were learned and for the prospective hunter (or for a good laugh to the experienced folks here they go):

An 18 inch barreled shotgun with IC choke firing 3 inch shells is LOUD ... So loud in fact that the cousin frequently dropped his own gun and ended up at the bottom of the boat in a fetal position, good thing I made a point to keep my ear pro on.

They know a lot about hunting, I know a lot about guns, I ended up teaching the cousin what that switch was on the side of his Auto-5 (mag cut-off) and how to use it.

Birds all pretty much look the same when they come it at weird angles low to the water and you're in a boat behind some cattails or whetever they were. To the point where I pretty much relied on the cousin and uncle to fire first whever a bird came in range, otherwise the seagull and cormorant population would have been significantly reduced.

A few minutes after we retrieved the 2nd downed duck the first time I went out (big male mallard), I spotted the thing looking around so obviously it wasn't dead yet. I said to the cousin "err, I don't think the thing is dead", he grabbed it, swung it around, tossed it back in the boat. Yet again the thing looked around. Uncle got pissed off, grabbed it, swung it around, tossed it back in the boat. Again it looked around .... Cousin got pissed off and pretty much went "Bart Simpson" on it, grabbed it by the neck with both hands and strangled it. The whole incident was sort of funny in retrospect. It took awhile for the thing to stop struggling though, not for the faint of heart.

Ducks are amazingly tough critters. It ain't like the movies or those TV hunting shows where the bird magically fall dead. Out of the 4 that we retrieved 3 required manual finishing off. The last 2 were particularly unsettling, one had it's cheek blown clean off with the the beak hanging by a thread, classic head shot, yet was very much alive when we retrieved it. This was the one that kept diving. The last one (mine) also has most of it's head blown off, left eye destroyed and everything, yet was still very much alive when retrieved. I swung it around like I had been taught, tossed it in the boat, then the cousin gave me a dirty look and pointed at it's chest, it was still breathing ! So I swung it around again, this time it worked.

Cleanup job was pretty much like I remembered with the pheasants last year, minus the boiling water trick to get the feathers off. When I inquired about it the cousin just shrugged "they have waterproof feathers so it doesn't work for them". He made it look easy, especially the plucking part. So I grabbed a wing from the scrap bucket and gave one of the feathers a tug, it turned out to be way harder then it looks. Cousin ended up giving me a dirty look, taught me that there's a reason why wings get cut off. So I proceeded to grab the duck carcass in front on me on the cleaning table, got hold of a few feathers expecting they would come off easily,and lifted said carcass right off the table ! A "wtf" moment went thru my head at that time. The cousin sighed, rolled his eyes, then taught me how to do it. Again, something that just isn't taught in the hunters course.

Overall though, much fun was had by all.
 
Great story - I got my first wood duck this year too, by myself, on a remote pond. Too stupid to bring a boat or a dog, but smart enough to set my arc of fire to drop the bird at the water's edge (I'll be better prepared next time). Scary, exciting, and boring (long waits between opportunities that late in the season.)

Hunter Safety is one thing, but I'd love a local (or area) clinic on a particular topic, like a one-day seminar on everything you need to know about ducks and geese. Another about deer - like the Turkey courses in Ontario, which some argue isn't much more than a cash-grab, but a never-before-hunted fellow like myself could learn a lot. The instructor would hopefully teach the "right" way to do everything :)

Good job, and good luck next year!
 
You really need to relax, take a couple of deep breaths, you will learn this stuff as you hunt more and get more experience. Before the season opens, go to a marshy area, with binos and do some bird watching, if you're that concerned.

Good advice.......and take along a copy of North American Ducks and Geese and learn to identify silhouettes in flight at distance and dusk and dawn. Study that book often and you should never have a problem.

Simply swinging them around isnt going to kill a wounded duck. The idea is to break the neck. How after so many years some of the guys I hunt with still can't do it makes me wonder? Simply grab by the head, hold the head stationary while you swing the body around the head, the neck will usually snap within the first full turn if you do it right.If yoy let the head spin with the body all you are doing is giving the poor injured bird a carnival ride, an uncomftorable one at that. Oh and BTW, if you were in my blind with an 18 inch barreled gun.........when you pulled up to shoot you would see a pair of vice grips attached to the end pinching the barrel closed!! That is way too much muzzle blast to put on anyone sharing a blind with you and really hard on a dog's hearing a well if they bring one. Maybe if you are going to hunt that way you should be courteous enough to hand out some headphones or earplugs!:HR:
 
Learning is never pretty, but it sounds like you did a great job of it. Shooting a couple ducks on your first trip is better than many guys can say! Congratulations, I hope this means you will be getting out more next fall.
Maybe even splurge on a longer barrel for waterfowling? It will give you a better swing and make your buddies like you more. :p

 
Some sea ducks have necks that just twist and twist like a rubber band until they finally snap..... kinda narsty.

"Snapping" their necks just isn't as effective, in my limited experience

Yes and Big Canadas can be a chore too, especially if they have much fight left in them but a good fast twist with a short snap will usually sever the neckbone without tearing the head off if you use just enough force in the snap. I have however had a few headless ones that just didnt make the cut for the hero shots.:redface:
 
Some sea ducks have necks that just twist and twist like a rubber band until they finally snap..... kinda narsty.

"Snapping" their necks just isn't as effective, in my limited experience.

Sometimes I just bite them at the base of the skull (if there is nothing to whack their heads against). For big Canadas I've been using a leather awl to the base of the skull.
 
That would actually be a great idea, to bridge the gap between the safety/legal aspects taught in the existing course, and get into the details of things. The amount of knowledge that I soaked up over those 2 days was quite extensive and invaluable, but I figure not everybody gets to tag along with 60+ years of combined hunting experience their first time out.

Great story - I got my first wood duck this year too, by myself, on a remote pond. Too stupid to bring a boat or a dog, but smart enough to set my arc of fire to drop the bird at the water's edge (I'll be better prepared next time). Scary, exciting, and boring (long waits between opportunities that late in the season.)

Hunter Safety is one thing, but I'd love a local (or area) clinic on a particular topic, like a one-day seminar on everything you need to know about ducks and geese. Another about deer - like the Turkey courses in Ontario, which some argue isn't much more than a cash-grab, but a never-before-hunted fellow like myself could learn a lot. The instructor would hopefully teach the "right" way to do everything :)

Good job, and good luck next year!

Gotta use the gear that you have, especially your first time out. I'll be keeping a eye out for used barrels at the local gun shows this year, no point in investing a whole lot of dough in it since I don't know when/if I'll ever get to use it.

Learning is never pretty, but it sounds like you did a great job of it. Shooting a couple ducks on your first trip is better than many guys can say! Congratulations, I hope this means you will be getting out more next fall.
Maybe even splurge on a longer barrel for waterfowling? It will give you a better swing and make your buddies like you more. :p


There's definitely a trick to it that I have yet to master. Just because you feel things going snap crackle and pop doesn't mean you're doing it right.

Some sea ducks have necks that just twist and twist like a rubber band until they finally snap..... kinda narsty.

"Snapping" their necks just isn't as effective, in my limited experience.
 
i went for my first waterfowl hunt this past late october, and oh yes its a learning curve all right. i watched all kinds of youtube vidoes and was positive they were going to fall from the skies by the flocks, and dead at our feet. not so much of course.. ended up with just one mallard hen and was so excited i forgot to take the inaugural picture with it before cleaning it right away on the shore... im getting better though, and so will you. its great fun getting out there. especially if you have a good hunting buddy.
 
Since it was right in the middle of our decoys that were bobbing around in the waves it took me some time to figure out which one it was with the uncle muttering "shoot it, shoot it !!!" the whole time.

I thought it wasnt ethical to shoot them while they were resting on water?
 
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