E-Lander 1911 Mags

Well, you get what you pay for I guess. Got mine today, it does have the half moon cut into it but overall it kind of seems like a cheap piece o crap. Haven't fired it, just dry cycled rounds through my Norc 1911A1C with it, I can't have the 8th round in or it tilts forward and jams up against the feed ramp. I did get it to go in once by slapping the bottom of the mag with the slide pushing against the round. It seems to work okay with 7 rounds. It also doesn't slide in unless I hold the release button as I'm pushing the mag up. So basically I have a 7 round mag that doesn't function as well as the cheap tin can deals that the Norc came with. Ah well, that'll teach me to spend more on the next mag I buy
 
ilovegunz said:
Well, you get what you pay for I guess. Got mine today, it does have the half moon cut into it but overall it kind of seems like a cheap piece o crap. Haven't fired it, just dry cycled rounds through my Norc 1911A1C with it, I can't have the 8th round in or it tilts forward and jams up against the feed ramp. I did get it to go in once by slapping the bottom of the mag with the slide pushing against the round. It seems to work okay with 7 rounds. It also doesn't slide in unless I hold the release button as I'm pushing the mag up. So basically I have a 7 round mag that doesn't function as well as the cheap tin can deals that the Norc came with. Ah well, that'll teach me to spend more on the next mag I buy
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If you are not happy please return for a full refund, these are not cheap magazines and should function perfectly.

Please contact John@wolverinesupplies.com for a return number, I will cover all your shipping costs I would like to examine the mag and test her myself.
 
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ilovegunz said:
Well, you get what you pay for I guess. Got mine today, it does have the half moon cut into it but overall it kind of seems like a cheap piece o crap. Haven't fired it, just dry cycled rounds through my Norc 1911A1C with it, I can't have the 8th round in or it tilts forward and jams up against the feed ramp. I did get it to go in once by slapping the bottom of the mag with the slide pushing against the round. It seems to work okay with 7 rounds. It also doesn't slide in unless I hold the release button as I'm pushing the mag up. So basically I have a 7 round mag that doesn't function as well as the cheap tin can deals that the Norc came with. Ah well, that'll teach me to spend more on the next mag I buy
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Thanks for the heads up!
 
I am going to chime in here for a moment, not as a Wolverine employee but as a 30+ year 1911 addict. I honestly have to say these magazines certainly are not a cheap piece of crap. They are a well made solid magazine. They are better made than some of the "brand name of the moment" magazines that were touted over the years. I run my guns and mags hard, they get dropped, stepped on, thrown aside etc. These mags will take it for sure. Any of the ones I have had my hands on here have worked in any 1911 I have tried them in, they have all held 8 rounds properly and fed the rounds as they should.

Like any mechanical item, there is a "break in" period on mags as well. New springs need to bleed off a little of the excess tension they all start out with when they are new until they stabilize at their proper rate. They are no different than new recoil or trigger springs in a firearm, they all have that same type of break in period.

I've had high end mags in the past that I have had to "adjust" the feed lips to get them to properly present and hold the bullets where they should have.
 
Hm. Okay, tell you what, I'll head out today with a box of rounds and see if I can't "work it in" and then report back how it goes. If it still doesn't want to do what it should then I'll get in touch with you guys, if it goes well then I'll have egg on my face.
 
ilovegunz said:
Hm. Okay, tell you what, I'll head out today with a box of rounds and see if I can't "work it in" and then report back how it goes. If it still doesn't want to do what it should then I'll get in touch with you guys, if it goes well then I'll have egg on my face.
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Let us know how it goes. If those mags are still acting up, send them back like John had mentioned and we will take care of it for sure. It certainly is possible that you do have a faulty one and if you do we want make sure that you are looked after.
 
It was said before here but I just want to make sure! I'm so new to the 1911 pistols that I don't even own one yet... (I will come Monday) I'll be picking up a SAM 1911 and i'll need about 3 spare mags to go with it. Will these E-Lander mags work well with it?
 
langdog89 said:
It was said before here but I just want to make sure! I'm so new to the 1911 pistols that I don't even own one yet... (I will come Monday) I'll be picking up a SAM 1911 and i'll need about 3 spare mags to go with it. Will these E-Lander mags work well with it?
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As long as the pistol doesn't have a magazine well on it these mags will work just fine in the SAM pistols.
 
I have one in my 1911 Nork. Zero problems, fits good, functions well. They work & they fit !!

PS.......fits both of my norks.
strangely enough, the SAM mag wouldn't work in the Nork. but the Elander works in both.........make sense out of that LOL.
 
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This is what to look for in the California mags....1 of my 5 has the missed step in the manufacturing process. I'll fix it myself, 5 mins with the dremel and it will be fine. I was wondering why it wouldn't fit....lol
 
K all done. It does work now, mostly. I'm pretty confused about the problem I had inserting the mag, it really wouldn't go in without the release button being pushed in, but now it slides in like butter. Bizarre. As for the issue with the 8th round nosing over, it's still there, kinda...I'll explain. It did get a little better but if I'm gentle with releasing the slide, the round still noses over and won't go in. If I really let it snap, though, it seems to work alright. So as long as I'm not gentle, it works. Kind of annoying, but hardly worth sending it back for. I doubt Wolverine makes a ton off these and with this really is just a minor issue. Hell, for all I know it could be more the gun than the mag, it is a Norc after all. All in all, for 20 bucks I'm not gonna complain any more than I already have. Oh, and fwiw they shipped it quick and shipped signature required, I like that. And they packed it really well. No whiny hate threads are coming from this guy!
 
ilovegunz said:
K all done. It does work now, mostly. I'm pretty confused about the problem I had inserting the mag, it really wouldn't go in without the release button being pushed in, but now it slides in like butter. Bizarre. As for the issue with the 8th round nosing over, it's still there, kinda...I'll explain. It did get a little better but if I'm gentle with releasing the slide, the round still noses over and won't go in. If I really let it snap, though, it seems to work alright. So as long as I'm not gentle, it works. Kind of annoying, but hardly worth sending it back for. I doubt Wolverine makes a ton off these and with this really is just a minor issue. Hell, for all I know it could be more the gun than the mag, it is a Norc after all. All in all, for 20 bucks I'm not gonna complain any more than I already have. Oh, and fwiw they shipped it quick and shipped signature required, I like that. And they packed it really well. No whiny hate threads are coming from this guy!
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Thanks for your honest report, I appreciate that. But you started by saying that this mag seemed like a cheap piece of c----, well let,s examin the facts, and I have been around 1911 Autos for over 40 years so I do have a little experance with them.

When you insert a mag, hit the slide catch or drop the slide, the 1911 was never designed to feed a round at slow speed, try and do that and you the operator, are responsible for the malfunction, not the magazine.

When you insert a mag the corner of the mag hits the mag catch, depending on the design of the mag catch this may be a square edge. When I shot IPSC (40 years ago!) I always filed the corner of the mag where it hits the mag catch to ease the insertion, also check the mag catch, a little tuning the engagement edge may help ease the insertation, don,t be gentle, the 1911 was not designed to be operated gently.

As you correctly conclude, probable more the gun than magazine was responsible for your initial problems. Grumpy also correctly pointed out than all new mags need working a little as springs to ease slightly with use.

Finally please remember that at Wolverine Supplies we stand behind what we sell, have a problem call us we will sort it out. It would seem in this case there was no problem with the product we supplied, we are always happy to offer advice when requested. ;)
 
Mr Wolverine, I think you may have misconstrued the tone of my previous post. I did not experience problem free operation with this magazine, however I didn't feel it was worth making you go through the hassle of replacing this magazine (possibly for another with similar issues) considering I only bought a single magazine and it was only $20. I've wasted $20 on far sillier things than a handgun magazine offering mediocre performance. In other words, I was being nice. Your response had just enough touch of condescension to irk me, however, so I made this video. Now everybody can judge for themselves. I still think it's a piece of crap, and the fact that it seems practically half of them left the factory without a simple yet vital notch certainly doesn't say much for quality control. It's fine that these are cheap mags, and ergo it's going to be a fact of life that there will be problems with them, but don't go trying to tell me pebbles are pearls when they clearly aren't.


[video=vimeo;98227386]http://vimeo.com/98227386[/video]


By the way, I was initially going to send this to you privately as a pm, but it seems you don't accept them.
 
ilovegunz said:
K all done. It does work now, mostly. I'm pretty confused about the problem I had inserting the mag, it really wouldn't go in without the release button being pushed in, but now it slides in like butter. Bizarre. As for the issue with the 8th round nosing over, it's still there, kinda..
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I have this exact issue with ACT and WOLFF (rebranded ACTs with WOLFF springs) 8 rd mags; the most common culprit is the smaller upper portion of the magazine spring not riding / staying inside the raised portion of the follower. If the top of the spring rides forward, the spring folds on itseld and makes loading an 8th round almost impossible and usually results in failure to chamber from slide lock and / or failure to extract / eject after firing first round. When the spring rides against the rear of the mag body, these run at their best spring wise. This is an intermittent issue that I haven't found a fix for other than reassembling my mags while watching for the spring to seat in the rearmost hollow of the follower before topping them off. Hope this helps...

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The one on the left is how the spring should seat inside an assembled magazine; the one on the right will not let you top off with 8 rds and cause 1911 unhappiness as mentioned above......

 
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