Well Phil fair enough. As I stated before each shop has its purpose. I have been in your shop twice in the last 3 months and its been 2 years before that, once with a mutual friend (I was driving and well, I'll admit I was curious as to how the store looked), the other because I needed rings ASAP. So maybe I am a little two faced if thats what you would like to call it. I have no direct issues with you and have never (to my recollection) made a completely negative comment about P&D other than about my experience. But I do hate getting involved in these types of disscussions. I feel as though I'm attacking to defend... if that makes any sense. But I guess I could have just not got involved. I honestly would like to patch up our differences, but they were significant. I do not really want to discuss this on line as it is personal between P&D and myself. And Phil is right, this has gone far enough, this should be hatched out between the two of us. Phil, I appologise for comments made without allowing you full ability to comment. However, we did have discussions about a couple of things two years ago. I will not appologise for the issues I have. As for the rest of the CGN community, I also appologise for bringing my personal issues onto a public forum. My grandfather always said, "If you have nothing nice to say keep you trap shut" I think I will start to take that advice.