Election Over Can The SCAR FRT Be Released?

Deckard said:
Start the process now. You think you are the only one with this in mind?
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Going for the training courses at the end of July. If there is gonna be such a rush, I might have to wait a while to send in the actual application. If it already takes as long as I have heard to get your PAL in Quebec, I do not even want to imagine how long it would take if there is to be a rush.
 
stencollector said:
Only 1 year and you are complaining? In December of 2005 I had my local firearms officer over to verify 3 home-built guns I had made: 2 AR15s made from 80% kits, and a semi auto sten. The sten took 2 years plus of getting no real answers, until out of the blue a registration cert showed up. Suspecting something was wrong, I contacted the registry, and sure enough, the cert was an error. It took another year to make the changes necessary, and then I submitted the sten to them, which they said should be done by June. June came and went, and it was not until December that it finally came back approved. It took just 3 years.

I was not so lucky with the AR15s.

The two ARs are still waiting the issue of certs, 5-1/2 years later (and counting). They called for info and photos last spring (the firearms officer had taken pics back in 2005), and then it went back into the black hole called a registry.Oh yeah, I had 30 days to supply the info or they would cancel the registration process.

Standards of service? Accountability? Yeah right.
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but I guess with the fall of the registry the guys in Ottawa have time to catch up on other work. Out of the blue I received the two certificates for the AR15 homebuilt receivers last Friday. Elapsed time: 6 years and 3 months.
 
stencollector said:
Sorry to revive an old thread, but I guess with the fall of the registry the guys in Ottawa have time to catch up on other work. Out of the blue I received the two certificates for the AR15 homebuilt receivers last Friday. Elapsed time: 6 years and 3 months.
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:eek::eek:

I just waited a bit over 8 months for a 12(6) prohib to be reclassified as restricted after a barrel change and I thought that was stupid beyond words. Too bad we can't clean house and turf the ####### bureaucrats in a bunch of departments in Ottawa.


Mark
 
Guys, don't you know the lab is busy re-certifiying 12.3 prohibs before they get transferred from one owner who is grandfathered and hasn't shot it in 15 years and the new owner who is grandfathered and won't be able to shoot it at all. They're working hard to keep us safe from dangerous safe queens, and are far too busy over seeing the rework of work that's already been done to oversee any new work. Sheesh, how about a little appreciation.
 
The re-certification of the 12.3s is not unlike the "re-classifications" the lab has done in recent years. Basically un-approving previously approved guns.

As well, be nice to the ladies on the phone when making transfers for the next little while. Most of them should be out of a job in a month or so with any luck.
 
Just a question, rather than have the RCMP reclassify and confiscate, is there any possible way that when they reclassify to prohib, that a person could then qualify for prohib status? If we could find a way this would put a sudden stop to all the reclassifications as the last thing the RCMP want is more folks with Prohib status. Think about it, we might be able to find a way or a loophole to obtain prohib status.
 
dizzy said:
Just a question, rather than have the RCMP reclassify and confiscate, is there any possible way that when they reclassify to prohib, that a person could then qualify for prohib status? If we could find a way this would put a sudden stop to all the reclassifications as the last thing the RCMP want is more folks with Prohib status. Think about it, we might be able to find a way or a loophole to obtain prohib status.
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Nope, there are cut off dates you must have owned a prohib before in order to be grandfathered and no provisions in law for issuing more prohibited licenses.


Mark
 
The RCMP cannot refuse to do their job. There is case law that proves that not performing a task is equivalent with a "refusal" to perform their job. The importer should file for a hearing saying that the RCMP lack of action is tantamount to a refusal. If a judge finds that they have not performed their duty in a reasonable amount of time they judge can force them to make a decision on the status of the firearm.

The whole legal process would probably take about a year but at the end a decision would be made. As it sits the decision could be on hold forever. If I recall correctly Ed Burlew said the previous case pegged the non-complance at 8 months. So if a process has dragged out longer than 8 months you can claim that they have "refused" to complete the task. I don't recall the section required for the hearing but Ed will know. Case law is established and in the previous case the government was forced to render a decision.
 
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