Elk hunt - what cartridge

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just asking , why would I skip the 6.5 or 223 ? seems a real killer out to 800 yards with good terminal performance in close ??
or is it keyboard killing !! lol

why not ?
 
Do not take a 223 or 6.5 CM please. Elk are big, tough animals that can go a long way. Look at calibers in the 30/06 range with 180 grain bullets to start. My personal favorite is the 338 Win Mag. Accurate and recoil is tolerable as well.

So i don't understand the small is better theme .... I thought the 223 and 6.5 were the end all to big game hunting
NO recoil flat and fast , kills everything
I'm confused
 
So i don't understand the small is better theme .... I thought the 223 and 6.5 were the end all to big game hunting
NO recoil flat and fast , kills everything
I'm confused
either your having a good chuckle or you already know the answer.
you listed 2 of the best rounds of choice you currently own.. 300 and 325... both more than capibale.
use what your most comfortable with.

the 6.5 and 223 work very well due to next to no recoil in terms of longer ballistics its a no go for me.
If i were to chart 6.5/300/325 Im almost certain ballistics would be all comparable to just as flat.
 
either your having a good chuckle or you already know the answer.
you listed 2 of the best rounds of choice you currently own.. 300 and 325... both more than capibale.
use what your most comfortable with.

the 6.5 and 223 work very well due to next to no recoil in terms of longer ballistics its a no go for me.
If i were to chart 6.5/300/325 Im almost certain ballistics would be all comparable to just as flat.

good answer ..thank you
I'm leaning to the 6.5 for less recoil , and all the keyboard yes guys

the 12,000 is real
 
good answer ..thank you
I'm leaning to the 6.5 for less recoil , and all the keyboard yes guys

the 12,000 is real


Right on, let it rip. Just make sure you choose the proper bullet and hit the correct spot.

Proper placement, bullet construction, SD and bullet expansion are what's important. Make sure they ALL happen and you have a dead animal
 
Right on, let it rip. Just make sure you choose the proper bullet and hit the correct spot.

Proper placement, bullet construction, SD and bullet expansion are what's important. Make sure they ALL happen and you have a dead animal

fear and a big one is
What if a 400 plus at 350 yards , like a 800 lbs bull is standing straight at me ... after all that money and I have a little dinky 6.5 stick in my hands
It has little recoil , OH first shot counts

Nightmare
 
fear and a big one is
What if a 400 plus at 350 yards , like a 800 lbs bull is standing straight at me ... after all that money and I have a little dinky 6.5 stick in my hands
It has little recoil , OH first shot counts

Nightmare
Take something huge then and don't worry about the recoil, I have a 460 weatherby and a 500 Jeffery. I love big bores, I'm taking my 375hh on my next goat hunt.

In your case where you can't just go hunt them again next weekend and wait for an ideal shot use a bigger rifle, but if you could hunt them any time you want and wait for an ideal shot, use any gun you want including a 45-70 if you wish. (223 with eldm is going to be miles ahead of a 45-70)
 
good answer ..thank you
I'm leaning to the 6.5 for less recoil , and all the keyboard yes guys

the 12,000 is real
for elk 6.5 can be done at the range specified. Not anyone's first choice but not the biggest handicap ive ever seen.
Ive used 6.5 Grendel with luck for many years and that's 1/2 the power less. each to their own.
trolling or not I wish you the best on your hunt.
 
for elk 6.5 can be done at the range specified. Not anyone's first choice but not the biggest handicap ive ever seen.
Ive used 6.5 Grendel with luck for many years and that's 1/2 the power less. each to their own.
trolling or not I wish you the best on your hunt.

nice thanks , not trolling , honest
 
for the price you are paying that's in your hands and what you feel best with shooting is also your hands.
Not gonna be that a$$ that tells you what's correct in terms of what you want to do. However please due share your report and trip after the fact.
Always love the post hunting trips which seldom are posted
 
One elk hunt on the forest fringe in Saskatchewan two guys in the party hit the same bull through the same bullet hole. One guy nailed the bull coming out of the woods, it wheeled, and the other shot him headed back. The second shooter said he saw the muzzle flash through his scope! They both hit low on the double brown line, and it dropped. As someone already mentioned, a bull elk is a horse. Especially when it is on the ground.

I ignore rifle choices because there are so many good rifles on the gun store rack. My last hunt was with a rebarreled WW1 P14 in .300 WM. I think I was shooting 180gr Partitions to have both penetration and expansion. Think simple, and don't be overwhelmed by marketing.

My best advice is learn to judge distances! Do not depend on the reticle, just have a proven hold over chart taped to the buttstock. Learn your maximum point blank range and holdovers. If the guide says, 250yds, then know your hold up or down from zero. Otherwise you are risking your shot. If you want to know your rifle, the scope and yourself, shoot 40-50 rounds ahead of time.

Learn elk anatomy. Not all ungulates are the same "layout". Learn the points of aim on the animal. A hit on the double brown line is good, but the lower half is what will drop your animal. The spine (IIRC) is not as high as a deer.
 
I have used a creedmoor for plenty of elk hunts. Always been successful with one shot kills being the norm. I do use either 140 grain accubonds, partitions, and most recently 160 grain protected point woodleighs.

I took my 300 RUM, and my 375 up with me as well. But I almost always pick the Creedmoor. Soft shooting, extremely accurate, and blows right through the boiler room on the elk, leaving massive international damage with the 3 bullets I mentioned above.

I have used my RUM, and 30-06 for plenty of kills on elk as well. But me and the Creedmoor have had perfect luck since I bought my first one in 2011. It just plain works, with the right bullets that is. I would not pick anything but a bonded bullet for my elk hunts. For what it's worth, the 160 grain woodleigh at a scorching velocity of 2585fps did more internal damage to the heart and lungs at 200 yard impact than my brother-in-law's 300 win mag with 180 grain trophy bonded rounds did at 80 yards.

I have never recovered a 140 grain partition bullet shot out of a creedmoor from a elk or deer. I have caught the accubonds and the woodleighs in the hide on the exit side of elk before, with perfect looking mushroomed bullets.
 
22 magnum, use 40grain - reason i say this is you mention long ranges but also tree cover, so you could shoot it first from way out to claim it, then just work the trees until you get a few shots into it.
after putting 12k on the hunt, you should spend atleast half that on ammo for the hunt!

id use open sights but understand in todays world you might opt for a scope!

hth
 
22 magnum, use 40grain - reason i say this is you mention long ranges but also tree cover, so you could shoot it first from way out to claim it, then just work the trees until you get a few shots into it.
after putting 12k on the hunt, you should spend atleast half that on ammo for the hunt!

id use open sights but understand in todays world you might opt for a scope!

hth

Tks for the reply
Here in NA we shoot Elk , which are somewhat bigger than your jumpers < kangaroos<
But I understand your shoot , shoot mentality . Its an Aussie thingy
Those loppy ears are hard to hit ? iron sights
What bullet works best for them ?
 
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7mm rem mag kills elk dead if the shooter does thier part.
160 gr Nosler Partition hasn't failed yet.
The .223 and 6.5 should be left at home in my opinion.
 
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