Elk Pic in current BC Outdoors mag

If I were really desperate for meat, then I'd go get a side of beef from a rancher and cut it up myself. I own a 4x4 truck just for hunting season, so that's an expense. The gas getting to and from where I hunt adds up. It's a 2-2.5 hour drive depending where I go. In an elk season I'll go for a saturday here and there, and a few trips for several days. Then there's also all the time and money to prepare for the hunt, like going to the range [gas and ammo and range membership fees] buying nice warm hunting clothes, binocs and a spotting scope, etc. All that adds up. I like having more than one rifle, and pick up a gun here and there. Those aren't cheap. Hunting is an expensive hobby. If you use a quad, then it gets a lot more expensive. If I were just in it for the meat, that side of beef from the rancher will be a lot less $. Plus I know for sure I'd have meat on the table, and not have any uncertainty about having a bad year or something. Remember, I'm desperate here, and uncertainty is a bad thing.
If I could just walk out my back door and kill a 6x6 bull, then that would be the cheapest. But that aint happening where I live. [Maybe I could poach a deer with a bow, but I'd have to buy one first].
 
Huntin' Gun said:
Not where I hunt. 3 point or larger bull elk, or cows on a draw system. Bucks must have at least 4" in length. What does that have to do with anything. If you find sitting on a trophy disrespectful, you should reconsider what your hobby is. Killing for sport is far more disrespectful. Saying you do it only for the meat is BS. There's cheaper ways to get meat. So you're not getting the meat because you're starving. You're hunting for recreation. Killing for recreation. That's far more disrespectful than taking a photo while sitting on the game. IF you respect the animal that much, why did you KILL IT?
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I hunt for the enjoyment of the hunt the bonus is to harvest a game animal that will help feed my family for a year.

So your draw system allows 3 points or larger you telling me that if only a 6 point came in you would pass on it and wait for a smaller animal?

My costs are more for equipment that will last most of my lifetime and hopefully pass it onto my sons when I'm gone.

Also it is very rare that I pay for any travel expenses personally as a self employed free miner the companies I contract to pay all of my expenses I hunt when I am working. :D

Here is an example last year I shot a grizzly north of Fort St James a 2 point mule deer near Mackenzie and the largest 4 point mule deer that I have ever shot near Kamloops didn't pay a penny of my own money for any of the trip expenses.
 
Camp Cook said:
I hunt for the enjoyment of the hunt the bonus is to harvest a game animal that will help feed my family for a year.

So your draw system allows 3 points or larger you telling me that if only a 6 point came in you would pass on it and wait for a smaller animal?

My costs are more for equipment that will last most of my lifetime and hopefully pass it onto my sons when I'm gone.

Also it is very rare that I pay for any travel expenses personally as a self employed free miner the companies I contract to pay all of my expenses I hunt when I am working. :D

Here is an example last year I shot a grizzly north of Fort St James a 2 point mule deer near Mackenzie and the largest 4 point mule deer that I have ever shot near Kamloops didn't pay a penny of my own money for any of the trip expenses.
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I think you're situation is quite unique. You are fortunate for sure. I have to go out of my way to go hunting. I have to make special trips, and I pay a lot to do it. But I enjoy it just the same. To say that I enjoy killing an animal for recreaton is disturbing to many. But I do. I enjoy going well out of my way to blast a fist sized hole through it's lungs. And I celebrate when I do. I don't think that shows much 'respect' to the animal, and it doesn't bother me. Sitting on the critter while holding up its antlers doesn't bother me either.
 
That pic doesn't bother me in the least, I don't see it as disrespectful. I think using the antlers as a gun rest is far more disrespectful.

But, a lot of people see that elk as meat and only meat and think the whole respect issue is foolhardy, and I think I relate to them moreso than those who find it distasteful.
 
Camp Cook said:
The regulations state that we can only shoot a 6 point or larger elk or a 4 point or larger buck so your comment just tells me that you don't have a clue.
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Actually, BC has quite a few cow elk and 3pt elk seasons, as well as an "any bull" season in Region 6.:)

Cow elk is excellent meat.
 
the first bull moose i ever got led me through a god awful amount of soggy muskeg and THICK bush for miles...when i finally got the shot i downed him with two well placed shots from my 06...then waited a few minutes to make sure he wasnt getting back up

at that point i dragged my self over to him on pure adrenaline and flopped ass first right on top of him, totally exhausted....seemed the natural thing to do at the moment...didnt take pics like that but still did it and aint afraid to say it...at that moment it felt like i was "closer" to that old boy than anyone...we had been through a lot together

nothing wrong with this pic...NOT a thing...anyone using it as an excuse to ##### and moan or a chance to make fun of a strangers weight should be ashamed of themselves...thats the type of tactics we expect from nut job anti gun/hunt groups...not our own :kickInTheNuts:

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riden said:
That pic doesn't bother me in the least, I don't see it as disrespectful. I think using the antlers as a gun rest is far more disrespectful.
But, a lot of people see that elk as meat and only meat and think the whole respect issue is foolhardy, and I think I relate to them moreso than those who find it distasteful.
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You mean like this... :D

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Jamie Black R/T said:
the first bull moose i ever got led me through a god awful amount of soggy muskeg and THICK bush for miles...when i finally got the shot i downed him with two well placed shots from my 06...then waited a few minutes to make sure he wasnt getting back up

at that point i dragged my self over to him on pure adrenaline and flopped ass first right on top of him, totally exhausted....seemed the natural thing to do at the moment...didnt take pics like that but still did it and aint afraid to say it...at that moment it felt like i was "closer" to that old boy than anyone...we had been through a lot together

nothing wrong with this pic...NOT a thing...anyone using it as an excuse to ##### and moan or a chance to make fun of a strangers weight should be ashamed of themselves...thats the type of tactics we expect from nut job anti gun/hunt groups...not our own :kickInTheNuts:

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c'mon, using my goat head? apples and oranges. do you see me riding said goat head? or goat for that matter?
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The goat head is not disrespectful, but tossing it in the back of a dirty pickup truck and taking a picture of it could be considered disrespectful if you are that type of person.

head on a platter.... well that would be quite respectful, or perhaps you don;t know the history of such a thing? like in Bavaria where the head of the kill would be take to the bar after the hunt, placed in the center of the table and talk about and drank to for the rest of the night.
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Well, first, your picture depicts a goat head on a dirty pickup tailgate, not on a platter on a table in Bavaria. Furthermore, Bavaria has no mountain goats to hunt, we aren't in Bavaria, and they won't let you bring severed heads into bars in BC. BC culture tends to dictate that sort of drinking is done around a fire, on porch, in a shop or barn, often while cooking up some choice chunks of the animal in question.

but lets not talk of such things, as it's passe to treat your game as a worth opponent and give it a place of honor. rather we should disrespect it by treating like a domestic animal and riding it.
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Photographing it after being tossed in the back of a truck is somehow more respectful?
 
Camp Cook said:
You mean like this... :D

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CampCook, are you makin' friends again?!? :p

So she is sitting her ass on the bull she got, who friggin cares. She is trying to hold on to her gun, and the elk, while someone takes a pic; so what.

Frankly, Amphibious's goat head pic and the recent one of the elk some guys buddy got with his gun, where one of the guys has his foot on the elk, bothered me more. And neither one of these pics bothered me enough to start a thread about it or criticize someone I do not even know.

If you think game/trophy photos are vulgar or unethical, do not look at them. Or better yet, why not write an article for BC Outdoors, or some other magazine about taking great trophy pics. Be constructive, not divisive and whiny.
 
Taxidermist once showed me a pic of a bull that got shot by a young fellow, first couple were alright but one he was on its back giving it the spurs like he was Tex at the stampede. I saw no humor in it while the taxidermists thought it was great. I have never sat on an animal for pics that I can recall. If that is the pic she wants her kids to see in future years then so be it.
As for my pics I have a rag and water ready to wash the goo away and drive folks nuts getting ready for a shot. Sometimes I get thanked for it as those special moments need to be remembered in the best light possible. Some folks have higher standards.
Some even think its okay to hunt with a Stevens 200 when it is not.
 
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I'd have to agree with brotherjack. Why would this be disrespectful? I have seen hundreds (literally) if not more of guys sitting on their trophy elk or moose, and nothing was said about that. Would someone find it disrespectful because of jealousy perhaps (not implying that anyone is). The lady cut the tag of and amazing looking creature; good for her :)
 
To each their own. What I find disrespectful/obscene/etcetera maybe be what you find obviously a-ok and normal. The flip is also true. Why people would even ##### about something like this really makes me laugh. Getting all worked up over dead meat. Go press your personal values elsewhere. Isn't that how wars get rolling?

Noel said some people have higher standards. None of this is directed towards Noel by the way. However I think to put it more accurately would be to say, some people have different standards. And who is one person to say another persons standards are wrong. Would you be happy if someone told you how to raise your kid? Would you be indifferent about another man telling you how to paint your house, how to cut your grass?

This world needs more people minding their own business and doing their own thing. This woman sitting on her kill, doing whatever she might like to do on it, should really have no bearing on you. I really laughed about the threats of violence made over this, boot up the ass, hah. Try it. You might as well get on board with Wendy and start taking more of our guns away. You have the same base attitude, directed towards a different medium.
 
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