Elk Success with Gun Nut Gun Pics -Updates
- Thread starter Battle River
- Start date
john-brennan
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Vancouver Island B.C.
Why not? said:
X2 Ted with you. John.
BIGREDD said:4blade:This type of post is uncalled for and your attitude is that of an uneducated, unexperienced and jealous snob...
What is uncalled for is your contempt in calling someone "uneducated, unexperienced (inexperienced) and jealous" because they have exercised more sound judgement than you possess. I agree with 4Blade in suggesting that hunting a little more instead of risking a 425 yard shot at an elk with a .270 and a light bullet would have been prudent. This hunt ended favourably but it could have easily gone the other way.
The fact that you would condone such an attempt casts doubt on your own experience and skill as a hunter. Living in Peterborough, I doubt that you have even seen an elk, let alone hunted and harvested one in the back country.
425 yards with a 130 grand slam out of a 270 is beyond what I'd call it's effective range on elk, but I'm glad it all worked out.
sometimes it's hard to resist a shot when a big bull steps out, regardless what rifle is in your hands. I might of shot too if I had a 270 and that bull stepped out and there was no chance of closing the distance.
btw, the 130 GS @ 425 yards has only 1200 ft-lbs of energy
sometimes it's hard to resist a shot when a big bull steps out, regardless what rifle is in your hands. I might of shot too if I had a 270 and that bull stepped out and there was no chance of closing the distance.
btw, the 130 GS @ 425 yards has only 1200 ft-lbs of energy
Whether you disagree with the use of a .270 on Elk at distance is not the point or the purpose of this thread... :twisted:
You want to post your opinion on that subject you should start a new topic... :roll:
Slamming a guy for a successful hunt in this manner is bad taste and you are both out of line and just trolling... :idea:
I think that you and 4blade need to post some pictures of your successful hunts... :shock:
Your a guide right? I am sure you have a ton of pictures to share with us.... :?
I listened to elk bugle all morning yesterday on my deer stand, everyone knows there are elk in Peterborough :roll: :idea:
todbartell said:
So obviously it has enough energy to do the job Right?
I've often wondered when game became bulletproof :wink: .
IM glad animals cant read energy charts, or they'd know they cant die from 1200 ft lbs :wink:
T3, 2 posts, and your flapping your gumbs about contempt?
STFU,You want to talk about Sound Judgement?
Knowing to keep your mouth shut about someones successful hunt is sound Judgement.
Keeping your mouth shut about a 425 yard shot on a 16 inch kill zone because you dont know the shooters ability is Sound Judgement.
I just read of another Gunnut taking a moose @ 1120 yds with a 7mm rem. If most of your shooting is @ 1000 yds, its not a stretch. T3.5, its time to stop spending your time on a 100 yard range and broaden your abilities.
"Hunting" is called hunting not "Stalking or "Game shooting" for a reason.
If hitting a 16 inch plate @ 400 yards is a hard thing for you to do, I suggest you get out and practice. Closing the distance is the best option if possible, but if not, its sad that somone with your very limited abilities would have to let an animal walk because they dont find the need to shoot their firearms outside of 100 yards. sad indeed.
I agree the hunt could have gone the other way if someone with limited shooting experience such as yourself were shooting the rifle.
I SAW Bigredd flatten a Groundhog @ 495 yards. (ON a leica Rangefinder, not pacing T3.5) so for a punk talking about abilities, Maybe read a few posts about people and their abilities before you open your flap.
And if you havent seen an elk in Peterborough or the surrounding area, your not looking hard enough.
Many of mornings hunting @ Redds place you can hear the Elk bugling in the distance. And T3, a worldly educated hunter such as yourself should know that.
- Location
- Central; Alberta
Range trolling
I knew this thread would turn out this way, I knew I shouldn't have posted the range. My intent was to explain how interesting it is to buy a rifle on GN and then take a good animal with it. just like I enjoy it when family and freinds take good animals with my handloaded ammunition. If you guys read better(maybe school only goes up to Gr 6 in Rocky?) You will notice my opinions on elk rifles. I have taken Elk with 30-06, 338 Win Mag, 300 Win mag, 300 Wby Mag from distances of 90-425 yards. I have taken approx 20 deer with a 270 and the same load. My uncle has taken over 40 elk with a 270. The situation for the hunt is trhat I had one evening and one morning to hunt until I had to get back to the farm, If I go elk hunting for a week my 338 Win Mag or 300 Win are sure to come along. They are MUCH better Elk cartridges than a 270! That said, When I assumed the prone position and evaluated all thge variables such as wind-0 100 yards of open field each way, rest solid, Bull fever -none I knew I would get that bull. I have seen neophites like you naysayers with assorted 7mm Mags/300s/Ultrawhatevers melt down completely when trying to take 3 pt mule deer, Its taken me a long time to get comfortable taking game at any range, and I consider that my best edge, not the difference between 1200 and 1280 ft lbs
I knew this thread would turn out this way, I knew I shouldn't have posted the range. My intent was to explain how interesting it is to buy a rifle on GN and then take a good animal with it. just like I enjoy it when family and freinds take good animals with my handloaded ammunition. If you guys read better(maybe school only goes up to Gr 6 in Rocky?) You will notice my opinions on elk rifles. I have taken Elk with 30-06, 338 Win Mag, 300 Win mag, 300 Wby Mag from distances of 90-425 yards. I have taken approx 20 deer with a 270 and the same load. My uncle has taken over 40 elk with a 270. The situation for the hunt is trhat I had one evening and one morning to hunt until I had to get back to the farm, If I go elk hunting for a week my 338 Win Mag or 300 Win are sure to come along. They are MUCH better Elk cartridges than a 270! That said, When I assumed the prone position and evaluated all thge variables such as wind-0 100 yards of open field each way, rest solid, Bull fever -none I knew I would get that bull. I have seen neophites like you naysayers with assorted 7mm Mags/300s/Ultrawhatevers melt down completely when trying to take 3 pt mule deer, Its taken me a long time to get comfortable taking game at any range, and I consider that my best edge, not the difference between 1200 and 1280 ft lbs
Damn... Battle River we all know your intent and your ability... and it is a sorry day when we have to make excuses for a successful hunt. I apologize for ranting on your thread but I am tired of the Wannabes and Neverbeens that have been popping up lately. I think you made a hell of a good shot and well within your ability... keep it up and never stop posting the pictures and stories... makes the pretenders crazy... and that is a good thing :wink:
BIGREDD said:
2X
And Battle, Im with you on the CGN Pedigree rifles.
I've had a chance to shoot one Ducks unlimited Ruger model 77 with synthetic stock and nice wood inserts that you might be familliar with :wink:
It was a 270 also :wink:
Its a tackdriver with 130 gr SST's :wink:
- Location
- Central; Alberta
D DB that is great to hear the Ruger is a shooter as well as a looker! . No apology required from You B Red,
BR
BR
DarrylDB said:
Wow, Ontario is just full of blowhards. I love guys who run around pounding their chest talking about their long shots and their big guns and how much experience they have because they get to the range once a month and then spend a lot of time on the internet.
No matter how you try to justify your little dicks, a 425 yard shot with a .270 with a 130 grain bullet on an elk is absurd. It is a high risk/low percentage shot at the very best and the reality is that this animal could have spent the next three or four days bleeding to death and eventually would have been wasted feeding coyotes and magpies. You morons are so busy slapping each other on the back that you could not understand this; these are the kind of shots that separate a true hunter from the guy that gets out 5 days a year. This was a selfish, high risk shot because the shooter (by his own admission) only had an evening and a morning to hunt.
DarrylDB; To try and compare elk hunting to a 16" gong on a range tells me exactly what kind of shooting you do. Sound judgement should be utilized here if all you have done is read about other peoples experiences and have none of your own to share. And to the rotund BIGREDD, a groundhog hunter are you??? Well, that combined with your 6000 posts must make you a real hunter then :lol: . I mean, a day at the range and a groundhog shooter certainly justifies your ability and makes you the ultimate authority on all things hunting and shooting. There are so many similarities between gound hog hunting in Ontario and elk hunting on the prairies :lol: The common denominator in your threads appears to be that you attack anyone who you do not agree with; maybe take some of your own advice?
Battle River: By your own admission you state that you have better options for elk and state that if you were hunting for a week you would have taken them but in considering that you were only hunting for a morning and an evening you took your .270. Since when did the length of hunt determine what calibre a good shooter would use? If you are so experienced in the prone position and all the variables were assessed, why the need for follow up insurance shots then?
troutseeker
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Prince George, BC
So the nits are getting picked, blah blah blah... When do I get to see a picture? By the way, good shooting!
Trotuseeker
Trotuseeker
Sheesh, some people really need to relax ... I thought hunting was supposed to help out with that. :lol: I expect most everyone here would consider that shots on game past 300 yards are, generally speaking, "long shots". That doesn't mean you should never take them. Battle River obviously knows his rifle and his own limitations. From the look of the terrain in the pics, he probably had a clear view of his target, and he said he was able to take the shot from prone. So, all things considered, I think his decision to shoot was justified. The proof is in the pudding, as they say, or in this case, that fine elk at his feet. Congrats, Battle River. 
and so it begins.... :roll:
I really want to see some of your guide pictures... how long you been guiding :?:
I think that you are a Troll who is just looking to bolster his own miserable ego by flaming on the internet.
Heres a hint.... post something that interests people and proves that you know something... instead of flaming a respected member who has proved himself through intelligent dialogue and real hunting success pictures :!:
I can guarantee you will never see 100 posts with your vile and contemptous attitude for other hunters... post count means nothing here pal... it's all about content and respect.
I really want to see some of your guide pictures... how long you been guiding :?:
I think that you are a Troll who is just looking to bolster his own miserable ego by flaming on the internet.
Heres a hint.... post something that interests people and proves that you know something... instead of flaming a respected member who has proved himself through intelligent dialogue and real hunting success pictures :!:
- Location
- Central; Alberta
post delete of flames- thanks for the realy check Fxy. Good hunting out there lads!
Ok. Enough.
I don't know what it's been lately, but the number of fights breaking out is rediculous.
T3.5 & 4Blade -
Regardless of your opinions, this thread is NOT about the merits of the 270 at different ranges.
What you're doing is called a 'thread hijack', and while we don't usually jump on them too much, i can see where this is going.
If you want to start a new thread about cartridges and ranges - go ahead. But we're done discussing it in this thread.
As to the rest of the guys - i think we're about done with the personal comments about the two new posters as well.
Lets get back to the discussion at hand - that's a fine animal BR. And yes - i can totally see how it might be a little 'extra' sweet to drop an animal with a gun bought from a fellow cgn'er and then post it here
I don't know what it's been lately, but the number of fights breaking out is rediculous.
T3.5 & 4Blade -
Regardless of your opinions, this thread is NOT about the merits of the 270 at different ranges.
What you're doing is called a 'thread hijack', and while we don't usually jump on them too much, i can see where this is going.
If you want to start a new thread about cartridges and ranges - go ahead. But we're done discussing it in this thread.
As to the rest of the guys - i think we're about done with the personal comments about the two new posters as well.
Lets get back to the discussion at hand - that's a fine animal BR. And yes - i can totally see how it might be a little 'extra' sweet to drop an animal with a gun bought from a fellow cgn'er and then post it here
LMAO, The Member that was talking about the 1120 yard shot has likely shot more ammo this Month than you have in the last 10 years. (But if you actually read the forum, you'd know that) but sadly you resulted in pounding your chest.T3.5 said:
So we've come to the conclusion you love yourself.
T3.5 said:
Unlike our resident trolls, I actually get out and shoot targets akin to what I would expect to encounter in the real world.
Can anyone vouch for your ability to poke holes in anything?
Not likely.
I likened the Elk vitals to a target. If you can your intended target with absolute confidence regardless of range, you are being ethical regardless of what some troll has to say.
You want to talk hunting experiences?T3.5 said:
I've spent more time in the field this year allready with fellow gunnutz than you've likely been out in the last few years. Some of which can be found if you use the search function on the site. And once again you've been asked, how bout you Put up or shut up.
Lets see some pics to validate your ability as a guide not a troll?
So far the only shooting form you has ben your mouth.
T3.5 said:
Nope, it means some people have more time in the day than you.
But obviously your too thick to figure that out.
T3.5 said:
When it comes down to the issue of a 425 yard shot, there are more similarities than your pee brain seems to be able to comprehend.
1. Identifying your target
2. Guaging the distance at which your target is located as well as the angle of the shot.
3. Making necesary adjustments to ACCURATELY hit your target.
4. Pulling the trigger and collecting your game.
A 16 inch kill zone on an elk is a bit different than a 3 inch killzone on a chuck wouldnt you think? Point being, if your parcticed enough to hit a 3 inch killzone, 16 inches should be a touch easier. (Aside for buck fever)
Gunnutz has quite a few very successful guides in the ranks.
Im sure that you can produce someting to prove your more than a keypusher?
Because Pointing to a chunk of bush and saying "Der are Elk I Der" doesnt cut it to be a guide out here.
Im guessing T3.5 is the reincarnation of another Troll that was here a few weeks ago.
Anyone else got that feeling.
