Enlighten me on 7mm remington mag please.

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I have the opportunity to pick up a vanguard in this cal for a really good price in new condition. I have no experience with this caliber but I am interested. What are your opinions on it. I own two .30/06's and I do reload. The biggest animal I can foresee me hunting is moose. What are the pros and cons of this round?Practical hunting range on moose?this would be my first magnum should I decide to buy it.Thanks
 
I love my 7mm.
I load 139s for deer hunting and heavier bullets for shooting longer distances at the range.
My only issue right now is the availability of alliant powders.
But its not hard to work up a new load.
Brass is usually easy to find and recoil isnt that bad.
I strongly reccommend getting a 7mm.
 
The 7mmremmag is a very versatile cartridge, with a slightly smaller bullet diameter than a 30-06, but with more velocity. It provides a flatter trajectory than the 30-06, with very similar recoil. The 7mmremmag is an excellent all around cartridge for North American hunting. My only peeve with the 7mmremmag cartridge, isn't the cartridge at all, but rather with the people that just say 7mm, and assume that everyone is supposed to assume that they are referring to the 7mm remmag. I have personally owned sixteen 7mm rifles, and only five were chambered in 7mmremmag.
 
Just my 2 cents... Magnums are over-rated. Unless you plan on and are capable of shooting over 400 yrds, there's really no benefit to a magnum. Increased recoil, expensive ammo, will burn-out a barrel faster... What real gains in performance are there over a hand-loaded, appropriate bullet 30'06 round? The 30'06 is plenty for moose out to 400-500 yrds in factory form, so I would imagine you can work up a load close to magnum performance anyhow. There are a lot more bullets in 30 cal than 7mm to choose from. On a more personal note, my next gun is going to be a 6.5x55 in a mountain rifle platform for moose and elk.
 
The 7mm Rem mag is still as good today as it was when it was first introduced. The selection of 7mm bullets is nearly as good as it is for 30 cal. if you are going to reload. The cartridge can be loaded with a heavy charge of powder and a 175 grain bullet and, in this guise is effective on everything up to giant grizzlies. Or it can be loaded down a bit and used very effectively for this skinned gave such as white tailed deer. It is extremely versatile. It won't burn out a barrel any faster than an 06 and it won't have terrible recoil with most loads. It will shoot a bit flatter than the 06 and will carry more energy downrange for similar bullet weights. Don't be afraid to pull the trigger (pardon the little pun) on that rifle, You will most likely be very happy with it.
 
I have had the pleasure of having a 7MM Rem. Mag in a model 700 BDL deluxe rifle for 25 years.
With this rifle I shot 35 Moose, 15 Bears and 5 wolves.
I never had to track one and I never lost one.
All shots were behind the front leg.
I don't get any better that that.
The bullets that I used was a 160 grain Sierra Boattails.
Deadly and guaranteed Moose steak.
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I have shot more game with a 7 Rem Mag than any other over the three decades I have had tags in my pockets. Having said that, I no longer have one in the safe and won't. Some will argue, but it offers very little real world, on game performance over your 30-06, with the exception of recoil. If you want a bigger cartridge, and can handle the recoil, go ahead and get one, but don't take a half step up, take a full step up. If moose is your deal and you want a big thumper, go for a 300 mag or a 338 Win Mag. Or if you want to be a cool kid, get a 35 Whelen or a 9.3x62. I know there are some who swear by it, but many of us have seen very little difference when you run the bullets through a crony and you compare what it says with what the ammo manufacturers claim. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Good luck in your decision.
 
I have ha several 7mm rm and currently have one I'm fond of. Load a 160gr partition or Accubond to 3000fps and that's all you will ever need for hunting what you intend to.
 
Warden70 said:
Just my 2 cents... Magnums are over-rated. Unless you plan on and are capable of shooting over 400 yrds, there's really no benefit to a magnum. Increased recoil, expensive ammo, will burn-out a barrel faster... What real gains in performance are there over a hand-loaded, appropriate bullet 30'06 round? The 30'06 is plenty for moose out to 400-500 yrds in factory form, so I would imagine you can work up a load close to magnum performance anyhow. There are a lot more bullets in 30 cal than 7mm to choose from. On a more personal note, my next gun is going to be a 6.5x55 in a mountain rifle platform for moose and elk.
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I agree. Anything the 7mm can do, the 30-06 will do. If its a good deal, buy it and resell it.
 
When introduced in 1962 the 7mm Remington Magnum cartridge quickly became the most popular "Magnum" in North America and still holds that honour today... for good reason. If you want to try one, go ahead.
 
I have a Parker Hale 7mm MAG from 1974 that is my moose rifle. Great cartridge and will be able to handle anything I ever plan to hunt. I don't know the difference between the 30.06 and the 7mm MAG, but that seems to have been covered. Also, how does someone argue about burning out barrels (is this honestly a concern)? My 40 year old gun still shoots MOA at 200 yards and I shoot it a lot (at least 300 rounds per year), so I wouldn't worry about the longevity of the Weatherby.
 
At typical hunting distances you probably won't notice any difference at all. At long range the higher BC bullets of the 7mm will drift less. One thing to watch with the 7 is that there is more velocity variation from barrel to barrel than most cartridges. Some will run with the STWs and some with the .308s. The chronograph is your friend.
 
I have an old Parker-Hale 7mm Rem Mag which has been a great gun. In fact until last year that was all I ever hunted with and it has taken many deer as well as an elk and a moose. You can't go wrong with the 7mm Mag. They do have a bit of a kick but in a hunting rifle that isn't a big concern in my view.
 
If you want it buy it. Will it do anything that the 06 won't, no. The 06 is very underrated, especially for a handloader. New powders like rl17 and 100v will push 180's over 2900 at under 65k psi. 165's at 3000 and 150's at 3100. Full loaded 7mm with a fast barrel that is 2" longer will be lucky to beat those numbers by 100 fps. I have had many 7mm rems and like them but if you want something to improve on the 06 this ain't it.
 
One of the three do anything, one rifle calibers...along with 30-06 and 300 WM. Loaded down to 140ish gr for deer and a 175 premium for moose. Short of things like Buffalo, Muskox and the big bears, everything you need for Canada. In reality not much of a pip up from the 06, in performance or recoil.
 
nowarningshot said:
One of the three do anything, one rifle calibers...along with 30-06 and 300 WM. Loaded down to 140ish gr for deer and a 175 premium for moose. Short of things like Buffalo, Muskox and the big bears, everything you need for Canada. In reality not much of a pip up from the 06, in performance or recoil.
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Musk-ox are easy to kill, they just take their time falling over. They're just a giant sheep.
 
Where are you getting your 3006 data from? Not from the alliant or hodgdon reloading sites it would seem.

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If you want it buy it. Will it do anything that the 06 won't, no. The 06 is very underrated, especially for a handloader. New powders like rl17 and 100v will push 180's over 2900 at under 65k psi. 165's at 3000 and 150's at 3100. Full loaded 7mm with a fast barrel that is 2" longer will be lucky to beat those numbers by 100 fps. I have had many 7mm rems and like them but if you want something to improve on the 06 this ain't it.
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Great cartridge inside of 500 yards or so it won't do anything really that the 30-06 can't do but the 7 mm mag excels beyond that carrying killing energy quite a bit further out than is possible with the ot six.
 
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Out to 400yds I do believe the 30-06 and 7mm Rem Mag are synonymous with a small nod to the mildly increased PBR of the 7mm with similar bullets of SD between the two.
Passed the 400 mark the 30-06 drops back quickly due to velocity and BC.
That said, 99.99% of us live in the 400 zone so pick your poison and have fun.
 
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