The 7mmremmag is actually one of the smaller magnums, there are many cartridges that offer much more energy. As for the free lunch, it isn't free, you pay for the reduced recoil by having to deal with much more noise being transferred rearward toward the shooter.
Enlighten me on 7mm remington mag please.
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I stand corrected, both of these things are true.... I did not mean to try to mislead anyone to think that the Venerable 7 RM is one of "The Big Magnums", that's for sure! Certainly, It is one of two of the most popular of the (ordinary? standard?) magnums on the North American market.... I have been so very fortunate to have owned this Finnlight for some time, but for various reasons, I have been unable to really fire it and put it through it's paces, so to speak...Part of the reason has been that I have found this rifle much more difficult to shoot than some of my others.... The lighter weight being the primary culprit... What a wonderful problem to have.... Anyway, being new to this site, and perhaps to Shooting in general, doesn't mean that this is my first BBQ, however.... And older eyes, shoulders, back, etc, means that to shoot this rifle well for me meant putting a muzzle brake on it..... me, and two other fellas fired about 40 rounds through it the other day, gorgeous Western Canadian Prairies Day, melting snow, surprisingly little wind, and lots of sunshine...fired at target boards at 2 and 300 yards, and steel at 3, 4 (pretty small, 6"square plates x2) and 500 yards... OK, Jeffrey, 485 yards, the steel at 500 (485) is 10" ......fired other rifles as well, .300 Win Mag, lots of .243 Win....awesome!! but the 7mm RM shone through beautifully, ballistics aside, I just "clicked" with the rifle, you could see it in the video that a friend shot toward the end of the shoot, easy to see why it is so popular....!
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I have owned one for 35 yrs ,, all in all a very good round ,,, way more power than you need and a good long range round ,, many say a 30-06 will do everything however if the shot is long and your shooting a heavy bullet say 175 gr ,, this is where the 7mag will shine over the 30-06 ,, try a 30-06 with a 180 gr bullet and a 7mm mag with a 175 gr bullet ,, the 7 mm will drop less and hit harder .
The truth is, we have been firing 7mm-08's for silhouette for a couple of years, now, so, we are getting used to the inherent accuracy and usefulness of the .284 bullet for slow, light charges for knocking over steel animal-shaped plates at distances out to 500 metres, but I have had little experience with the much faster magums, AI's and Ultra-Mags.... .257 Weatherby, yes, .300 Weatherby, yes, .30-378 Weatherby, a tiny bit yes.... but not .270 Win, and not .284.....
But other fellas and ladies, I'm sure, have known the wonderfulness of 7mm magnums for many years, and as I fired a box of 162 gr. SST Superformance rounds the other day I could "feel" the good solid hit and vibration.... and good solid smack and ring of steel down at the other end that we could clearly hear all the way back to our table set out into the snow.... And I began to wonder about tossing the much heavier and longer 175 gr. Bullets that have made the 7mm such a great bullet to fire a long ways..... I have always loved the .30 calibres, but there is a whole world of longer-distance hard-hitting hunting rifles and calibres out there.... at least for me....
But other fellas and ladies, I'm sure, have known the wonderfulness of 7mm magnums for many years, and as I fired a box of 162 gr. SST Superformance rounds the other day I could "feel" the good solid hit and vibration.... and good solid smack and ring of steel down at the other end that we could clearly hear all the way back to our table set out into the snow.... And I began to wonder about tossing the much heavier and longer 175 gr. Bullets that have made the 7mm such a great bullet to fire a long ways..... I have always loved the .30 calibres, but there is a whole world of longer-distance hard-hitting hunting rifles and calibres out there.... at least for me....
As for the muzzle brake, once again, so damn lucky to have, first a gunsmith who can put a brake on whatever you want jus right around the corner, but also a great place(s) to fire these rifles..... and We all were plugs and hearing protection, we wouldn't think to do otherwise! we all work in occupations were hearing protection is mandatory, and these young people out here would tell you take to a hike if you tried to tell them that they weren't allowed to wear hearing protection.... and, I was "testing" the side-blast, and blast backwards from the axis, 45 degrees off off the axis of the bore, sideways about 2' from the shooters head when in the firing position....Always staying back from the muzzle, of course!! there is some (substantial) blast directly sideways, and upward I am assuming..... But as you move closer to the rifle at the same time that you step back toward the shooter's position, that blast (and to some extent the noise) quickly dissipates to nothing directly effecting the shooter.... free lunch? I think so, at least for me! But I would argue that I "paid" for it ($200), and took a risk, (small, admittedly!) that my rifle would come back and still be accurate, etc.... but lots more work to do yet! Always learning, and trying to do new things.... and lots of the old, too.... one great range day does not make a great season, but it could kick off a great one, for sure.... so anyway, all that yapping, hope that I was able to pass on some of the excitement of firing the 7mm RM.....!!
Is that ok, Jeffrey...... "Ol' Dead Eye...."?
Is that ok, Jeffrey...... "Ol' Dead Eye...."?
I know two people that suffered permanent hearing loss from a single shot with a braked rifle, without hearing protection. In one instance the hearing loss was quite significant according to his follow up hearing tests. This persons regular hearing tests at work had shown normal hearing until this incident, despite the fact that he had never worn hearing protection while hunting, for thirty years . I also don't wear hearing protection while hunting, and after over forty years of hunting, my hearing is considered normal according to my regular hearing tests
I mentioned in my earlier post about how I loved my 7RM, win 70 classic sporter BOSS equiped... And I meantioned how it was "loud as all hell"
Well, I'm one of those guys with permanent hearing loss in one ear (about 30% and I don't hear certain tones well at all) from settin that rifle off with the muzzle a foot away from a monster douglas fir. Got my buck but the blast bouncin off the tree and at my left ear was like a kick in the head. I wear ear protection now let me tell ya.... And I sold that rifle
Love the 7RM , I'll take the recoil over brake blast any day of the week and I'm not a big guy and I'm gimped with a major pelvis/lower spine injury from the steel trades. Heck, my rem700 mcmillan hunter .338WM is 7.4lbs (no optic) and no brake needed.
While I agree the 7mm Rem Mag is a very good and versatile cartridge I can't agree with putting a brake on one.
I have at least a half dozen brakes in my tool box that were removed from various rifles. I cut off the threads and recrown them. One came off of a 270 if you can believe that.
I get a kick out of guys who try to sell a rifle and add extra for the brake "that cost me $350"....I take that amount off the value of the rifle....
There's a very nice Sako in 7 Mag on the EE that I maybe would buy but the brake is a deal breaker.....
I have at least a half dozen brakes in my tool box that were removed from various rifles. I cut off the threads and recrown them. One came off of a 270 if you can believe that.
I get a kick out of guys who try to sell a rifle and add extra for the brake "that cost me $350"....I take that amount off the value of the rifle....
There's a very nice Sako in 7 Mag on the EE that I maybe would buy but the brake is a deal breaker.....
for what I do, I don't need a magnum, and I am not a fan of recoil, so I draw the line at 30-06 as top gun. And even that sits in the safe for the most part. I love my 7mm-08's and 308's. I once had a T/C 83 in 7mmRM. I had it on the table at a gun show. Someone came by, picked it up and looked at it and said: "wow, I bet that this one gets your attention when you pull the trigger", I said "yep, it certainly does"! It sold eventually with the other 2 barrels in 222 & 223.
A young friend of ours ruined himself by insisting on getting a 7RM as his first rifle. Sure enough, he got a big time flinch and it took him a long time to get rid of it. He now enjoys his 7mm-08.
A young friend of ours ruined himself by insisting on getting a 7RM as his first rifle. Sure enough, he got a big time flinch and it took him a long time to get rid of it. He now enjoys his 7mm-08.
BrotherRockeye
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IIRC from reading on the subject the 7RM was developed specifically to achieve more velocity with no more recoil than the 30-06...
I thought those were a bit hot too.. I have loaded a moly coated 200 grain to 2690, and thought that was pretty hot... that is the same energy as a 180 at 2835... my experience is that rifles pretty well top out at close to the same energy...
i have a model 70, in 7mm rem mag. i load 168gr berger vlds... i love the rifle. it performs very well... it has replaced my 300 win mag and started me down the path to realizing the potential of smaller cartridges... the only reason i still have the 300 win mag is because it was the first rifle i ever bought, otherwise it would've been ditched long ago.
I guess you didn't hear what I said!
That happens, sometimes.
