Entering the rimfire world

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Hi all,

With my safety course recently completed I am now thinking about my first firearm purchase.
The decision has already been made to get a .22LR and to get into shooting, acquiring the reflexes and learning the craft.

Looking at the EE section of the forum, online stores and in stores, there are way too many options.
So far i am leaning towards a B22 FV-SR but they are impossible to find used...

I am not rich but can probably afford $6-900 CAD for a rifle and scope
What would be a reasonable choice for me? I am looking at getting into longer distances shooting and I don't mind used equipment in good condition.

Thanks in advance for the help
 
To start off id suggest a savage mk11 fv and a decent optic. You can swap the stock later as you progress.

Mine resides in a mdt lss 22 chassis now but still shotvery respectfully in the factory plastic stock. It just had to much flex. There are cheap ways to stiffen the foctory stocks as well
 
Hi all,

With my safety course recently completed I am now thinking about my first firearm purchase.
The decision has already been made to get a .22LR and to get into shooting, acquiring the reflexes and learning the craft.

Looking at the EE section of the forum, online stores and in stores, there are way too many options.
So far i am leaning towards a B22 FV-SR but they are impossible to find used...

I am not rich but can probably afford $6-900 CAD for a rifle and scope
What would be a reasonable choice for me? I am looking at getting into longer distances shooting and I don't mind used equipment in good condition.

Thanks in advance for the help

I would personally buy a used CZ 455 and put on a Nikon Rimfire scope with the .22 bdc reticle, you can get the 3x9-40/4x12x40-40 pretty cheap and it’s decent glass for the money. Reliable Gun has a 455 American Red on for 467.50, that’s a good deal for a nice rifle!
 
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Hi all,

With my safety course recently completed I am now thinking about my first firearm purchase.
The decision has already been made to get a .22LR and to get into shooting, acquiring the reflexes and learning the craft.

Looking at the EE section of the forum, online stores and in stores, there are way too many options.
So far i am leaning towards a B22 FV-SR but they are impossible to find used...

I am not rich but can probably afford $6-900 CAD for a rifle and scope
What would be a reasonable choice for me? I am looking at getting into longer distances shooting and I don't mind used equipment in good condition.

Thanks in advance for the help

CZ 455/452 or Brno. These are the rifles that everyone else's are measured against in the < $1000.00 price range. Shop well; more like $500.00
 
I would personally buy a used CZ 455 and put on a Nikon Rimfire scope with the .22 bdc reticle, you can get the 3x9-40/4x12x40-40 pretty cheap and it’s decent glass for the money. Reliable Gun has a 455 American Red on for 467.50, that’s a good deal for a nice rifle!

Nope, get one with open sights, and learn how to shoot; you will find at moderate ranges you will shoot better with open sights than with a scope. Me, I shoot better with Peep sights.
 
Hi all,

With my safety course recently completed I am now thinking about my first firearm purchase.
The decision has already been made to get a .22LR and to get into shooting, acquiring the reflexes and learning the craft.

Looking at the EE section of the forum, online stores and in stores, there are way too many options.
So far i am leaning towards a B22 FV-SR but they are impossible to find used...

I am not rich but can probably afford $6-900 CAD for a rifle and scope
What would be a reasonable choice for me? I am looking at getting into longer distances shooting and I don't mind used equipment in good condition.

Thanks in advance for the help

Rimfire LR shooting has exploded in popularity... most every thing can do well out to 200yds. It gets more specialised at 300 and 400yds.

For a rifle, I would lean you to the Savage MkII family. The FV is a simple and very effective place to start. If you decide you want to compete in CRPS and similar PRS games, this rifle will win and has won matches. So for a basic rifle that works, ball park $300 new... and whatever you can deal on used. Rimfire barrels really don't wear out so if not abused, a used rifle may serve you well.

for glass, this is where you have to make a decision. How serious do you want to get at rimfire LR and do you want to play rimfire PRS games? If you want to play in CRPS or simliar, you need optics that have alot of travel, good focal systems, the right type of features and reliable tracking. There are a bunch of relatively inexpensive optics that are popular... how well they work???? Do they have all the features and glass????

But they are within your budget.

I would say a scope that will compete in CRPS and do well is the Athlon Argos BTR 6-24 FFP Mil. This is the bare entry point with a full range of useable features. Glass is surprisingly good and tracking has been proven to be solid and reliable. This will push your total budget a couple of hundred but I feel money well spent. Yes, you can buy cheaper at the beginning and then you will likely want to upgrade soon after and that just means you spend more in the long run. Couple with the MkII FV, you can stay in production class.

If LR rimfire is truly your goal, consider saving longer and making a better scope/ring/base purchase. A scope that doesn't track or is unreliable will be a huge source of trouble in this game. If you can't shim your scope properly, you will run out of elevation and that doesn't help.

There are a number of inexpensive rifles that will work.... optics, consider spending enough to get the job done. From there, test better qualitly match ammo. Can certainly offer some direction when you decide on a rifle. Beyond 100yds, ammo and optics really determine how well you do.

YMMV

Jerry
 
I would personally buy a used CZ 455 and put on a Nikon Rimfire scope with the .22 bdc reticle, you can get the 3x9-40/4x12x40-40 pretty cheap and it’s decent glass for the money. Reliable Gun has a 455 American Red on for 467.50, that’s a good deal for a nice rifle!

This would be a good choice. My favorite rimfire is my 5mm mag and it's to bad they went out of flavor in the mid '70s.
 
It all depends on what you want to do with the rifle and what you expect from rimfire ammo.

Production class CPRS - Look for as used Savage m2 FVSR and top it with a vortex tactical or Athlon scope depending on the reticle that you prefer better.
Hunting inside 50 yards- pretty much any rifle with open sights or a cheap 3-9 optic
Bench target shooting- I like Anschutz single shots and a tiny target dot or very fine crosshair and expensive ammo
Rapid fire ringing Gongs out to 100 or more - 10-22 target model with about 16x power

You will end up with probably 3 or 4.. get your RPAL and you will own another 3 or 4.. lol, cheap and fun to shoot.
 
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Nope, get one with open sights, and learn how to shoot; you will find at moderate ranges you will shoot better with open sights than with a scope. Me, I shoot better with Peep sights.

I agree with you that someone starting out should learn how to use open sights, that’s how I learned how to shoot and I still shoot most of my center fire rifles this way. It’s a lot of fun and can be very accurate with a decent set of sights. I have shot some great groups with irons but I shoot a lot better with glass and a target with a smal point of aim.

Whatever the OP decides to do, as long as you’re happy and stick with the hobby, that’s all that matters.
 
I went with CZ 455 cdn for just over $500 and changed scope 4times since buying my rifle 18 months ago. Started with a cheap 3-9, then went with an ebay special 4-24 with adjustable AO, then tried out the 4-12 Nikon Rimfire and finally settles on the Cabelas Covenant 6-24.

The covenant $350 on sale at Bass pro is a great scope for $$. I realy like the exposed turret and adjustable paralax down to 10 yards. If like me you get in to Outlaw Precision Rimfire Series we shoot 25-100m target and all though great glass, the Nikon rimfire paralax is set at 75 yards so when shooting a KYL (Know Your limit) at 25yard and the smallest tgt is 1/4 inch you need the adjustable paralax
 
Hi all,

With my safety course recently completed I am now thinking about my first firearm purchase.
The decision has already been made to get a .22LR and to get into shooting, acquiring the reflexes and learning the craft.

Looking at the EE section of the forum, online stores and in stores, there are way too many options.
So far i am leaning towards a B22 FV-SR but they are impossible to find used...

I am not rich but can probably afford $6-900 CAD for a rifle and scope
What would be a reasonable choice for me? I am looking at getting into longer distances shooting and I don't mind used equipment in good condition.

Thanks in advance for the help

I'm with Jerry on this one. The Savage MKii is a solid rifle to start with. I just jumped into long range rimfire this summer. I had a Savage FVT I used for plinking, topped it with a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16x44 and the thing is a laser.

You can't go wrong with the Savage MKii line. The FV will get you in the game for a reasonable price and can be upgraded as funds become available should it peak your interest.

Like Jerry stated, theres lots of options when it comes to optics. I personally chose Vortex because it was in my budget and has an unbeatable warranty.

Cheers, Rob.
 
Most rimfire rifles we sell are used with some form of magnified optics while very few people prefer open sights. If the intended use of the rifle would be small moving targets open sights might be helpful however I think some form of scope would be far easier and would achieve better results in most cases. Many rimfire rifles now do not come with open sights and even ones that do like a Ruger 10-22 standard barrel model are sold with optics. I think many new shooters would be more successful using optics. Phil.
 
I shoot both open sight and scope/optics class free-hand at our club. Stupid big varmint and tactical sniper scopes are OK if you are shooting 100 + yards from a bench rest. In the field, or free-hand they add a lot of weight to a rifle and serve no useful purpose, and restrict your field of vision. Something like a 1.5-5 would be better for .22 if one must have a scope. I have tried lots of scopes, and at present am shooting our Scope/Optics class with a simple little red-dot with no magnification. I shoot better freehand with it (it is currently on a CZ 452). My current opensight rifle is a very old cooey 78 with factory peep sight. From a bench rest, both rifles will put 10 bullets in one slightly ragged hole; freehand, I shoot better with the peep sight than with the red dot. I shoot better with both of these than I do with a scope.
 
Most rimfire rifles we sell are used with some form of magnified optics while very few people prefer open sights. If the intended use of the rifle would be small moving targets open sights might be helpful however I think some form of scope would be far easier and would achieve better results in most cases. Many rimfire rifles now do not come with open sights and even ones that do like a Ruger 10-22 standard barrel model are sold with optics. I think many new shooters would be more successful using optics. Phil.

While I agree that new shooters will shoot better with a scope from a bench, I still view a scope as a crutch for anything other than long range precision shooting. Don't get me wrong; I have 6-26 power on my .17 (was on my 22-250 before I sold it) and it lets me see a ground-hog's beady eyes peering over the top of the grass at 200 yards; and allows the precise removal of the brain at long distances. This is the one of three scopes that are currently in use on any of our rifles; my wife has an old Tasco 4x on her Remington Nylon 66, and she likes it; and I have a 4 power on a .22 air rifle I use for ice-sickle removal when we have winter thaws.
 
Hi all,

With my safety course recently completed I am now thinking about my first firearm purchase.
The decision has already been made to get a .22LR and to get into shooting, acquiring the reflexes and learning the craft.

Looking at the EE section of the forum, online stores and in stores, there are way too many options.
So far i am leaning towards a B22 FV-SR but they are impossible to find used...

I am not rich but can probably afford $6-900 CAD for a rifle and scope
What would be a reasonable choice for me? I am looking at getting into longer distances shooting and I don't mind used equipment in good condition.

Thanks in advance for the help

Hey jucam~welcome to the sport and more specifically...to rimfires! :) I just read the whole thread, and if I compare the advice so far to what my experience has been...I'd say your focus ought to be on practice @ 50-75 yards, and a whole lot of it. Not only is this important if you have competition in mind down the road, but it's a heck of allot of fun too! :) @ closer ranges, things like high magnification scopes, canted scope bases are not required...nor are scopes with tons of elevation/windage adjustment. YES, Jerry @ Mystic is 100% right about everything he posted (he's probably forgotten more than I've ever known about scopes! :) ) but I shot 22LR at 50-100 yards for a decade and a half before it even occurred to me to push it past that. Long range is fun too, but you can learn ALLOT about what you're doing right/wrong @ 50 yards.

As for a rifle/scope package in your price range~lots of good advice already. I once owned a Mark II FV-SR and it was not an accurate rifle, I have no experience with the B-series guns though. I DO like the look of them. I think as others have stated, a Mark II FV (heavy barrel) would be a good choice, and the Savage "Accutrigger" they're equipped with is very decent. The biggest issue with the Mark II has to be the plastic stock but more importantly, cheek weld. Those stocks are not well-suited to scope use (your eye sits too low=fine for iron sights) but Savage chucked them on all their entry-level rimfires. I corrected for that using one of these, which not only improved cheek weld...but looked like it came that way from the factory. Comfortable too! https://www.accu-riser.com/accu-riser-cp-4000p-monte-carlo-comb-raiser/

Scopes~now there is a slippery slope. I think the toughest less I learned as a cash-strapped shooter is this~if you shoot allot, if you want good results, if you want to really enjoy the shooting experience...you have to spend a bit. It's not uncommon to hear experienced shooters say they spend as much, if not more on the scope. (vs the gun) I'd say, do the best you can...but (new) scopes in the $200 class and under have proven to all be problematic in my experience. And believe me, I've tried. lol YES, if you pick a hunter-grade, 3-9X it'll probably do the job, but most of those are set-up for ranges of 100 yards or more. You want a scope that'll work well under that for a rimfire. If in doubt, look into the "parallax" setting for the scope you're considering...or...choose an AO (adjustable objective) or SF (side focus) model. Rimfire-specific scopes (Nikon, Leupold, etc) usually have parallax settings of 50-60 yards. Refers to how close it'll function properly, greater distances not an issue. :) My 2 most recent new scope purchases for rimfires were; Sightron S1 4-12 AO (HHR reticle) and a Leupold VX-Freedom Rimfire 3-9. I like both, paid about $300 for each of them.

Out of time to talk about scope rings, spare mags, the importance of trying lots of ammo types (guns are more moody than you'd think)...but lots of guys on here can expand on that.

Good luck, be safe, and have fun!
 
Wow what an amazing response! I was expecting to be told to go pound sand.
didn’t realize either that it was like asking for what oil to use in a race bike. A lot of controversy and different opinions.


i’ll do some more research and keep an eye open on the EE for when my card comes in the mail.
i cannot wait to have some fun.
 
Nope, get one with open sights, and learn how to shoot; you will find at moderate ranges you will shoot better with open sights than with a scope. Me, I shoot better with Peep sights.
Man I envy all you guys who can shoot open sights I got scopes and optics on all mine pretty much as soon as I started this hobby. Nothing I can do about it, it’s always going to be optics over irons for me sadly.
 
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