Eotech/Aimpoint On the hand-guard... Its a Canadian thing.
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Many of these guns are sporting fixed carry handles with pencil barrels. Makes me wonder if weight is an issue in their selection of these particular "retro" uppers. If that's the case, then it would make sense to put the 1x magnifcation optics out on the handguard. Who really wants a screwed up cheek weld?
I rock it like that. It works and I love the carry handle. Practical and solid rear sight. And I did not experience a zero shift with my holo.
Even then if you lose lets say 1 MOA.... At 50 meters 0.5" will not make a difference on a "combat" carbine. It's about been fast and robust and been able to use back up irons if needed. Pure precision under 100 meters at a section level is not a concern. Effective fire is. And .05 inch will not make the difference between effective and non effective fire. Heck, effectiveness with a C7 at 300 meters on a section attack level will not be determined by a MOA poi shif. Sharpshooting and pure presicion is one thing. CQB is something different. Not saying precision is not important but I hope you get thee idea.
Even then if you lose lets say 1 MOA.... At 50 meters 0.5" will not make a difference on a "combat" carbine. It's about been fast and robust and been able to use back up irons if needed. Pure precision under 100 meters at a section level is not a concern. Effective fire is. And .05 inch will not make the difference between effective and non effective fire. Heck, effectiveness with a C7 at 300 meters on a section attack level will not be determined by a MOA poi shif. Sharpshooting and pure presicion is one thing. CQB is something different. Not saying precision is not important but I hope you get thee idea.
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I would agree with you, but there is still the risk/issue of a POI shift if you run your optic in a non FF handguard. Forward is good, but there comes a trade off, especially with drop in rail systems.
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The eotechs are neat far forward like that, you just see the reticle floating in space. Its more instinctual, less like looking through a tube. Even if theres some shift due to handguards, you've still got the irons for more precise shots.
I wish KevinB or BigRed would chime in here.
There were enough (educated) people telling me not to put my Eotech over my barrel that I would heed that warning. Again, this was with the older 552s, maybe new ones are more heat resilient.
There were enough (educated) people telling me not to put my Eotech over my barrel that I would heed that warning. Again, this was with the older 552s, maybe new ones are more heat resilient.
Obviously the eotech has advantages over irons alone, but I must be in the minority thinking they are just making due by mounting them on the RAS.
I've done something similar with a forward rail and an Aimpoint Micro on a VZ-58, and the poi shift was unacceptable to me at 100m (5-6").
I've never considered mounting to a RAS - I guess this could be the basis for a bit of a test?
So who thinks this thing will loose it's zero? At what round count? By how much? How much 'use' is needed to wobble it free?
I've done something similar with a forward rail and an Aimpoint Micro on a VZ-58, and the poi shift was unacceptable to me at 100m (5-6").
I've never considered mounting to a RAS - I guess this could be the basis for a bit of a test?
So who thinks this thing will loose it's zero? At what round count? By how much? How much 'use' is needed to wobble it free?
This might yet be another reason. People with astigmatism see multiple dots if the red dot is too close to the eye.
Move it farther away and the several dots become one dot and they can now use the red dot just like anyone else.
I have astigmatism and I can tell you this because it works for me.
Move it farther away and the several dots become one dot and they can now use the red dot just like anyone else.
I have astigmatism and I can tell you this because it works for me.
Maybe it's a personal preference thing.
It depends on other kit (NVG's, etc.), training, etc.
For me, I like red dots sitting a bit further back than that, but I understand the principle. I'd have to try shooting with a more forward-mounted red dot to make a valid evaluation.
It depends on other kit (NVG's, etc.), training, etc.
For me, I like red dots sitting a bit further back than that, but I understand the principle. I'd have to try shooting with a more forward-mounted red dot to make a valid evaluation.
You mean like 90% of the professional users of CCOs?
I can't speak for anyone else but I think the forward EOtech is just an old habit from the RAS/carry handle combo. It certainly does not hold a zero as well as an optic mounted on the receiver or a freefloat rail.
I've seen many issued Eotechs fried/beat to death after being forward mounted on rail systems (variety of weapons).
On some weapons you have no choice (AK family) and you make do with a forward mount. Whenever possible I prefer to have the optic closer to the front end of the receiver rather than out near the muzzle.
