Eotech and Tavor, problem...

Nic3500

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Greeting, seeking ideas to solve the following problem:
I own a Tavor with factory rail. I have used it with the original Meprolight, an Acog and a regular scope just fine.

I got an Eotech during the winter and I tried to adjust it today. I do not have enough elevation! It points WAY too high.

Since I cannot install the base differently (attached to the barrel),any thoughts on how to solve that? Can I get an angled riser? Shim the eotech base ?!?

Any ideas welcome!

Thanks, Nic
 
Not enough elevation? Points too high? Turn the knob the other way.

Or am I understanding you wrong.

Maybe you need a riser?
 
Ok, maybe I do not explain it well.

With the Eotech installed, I turn the elevation knob completly to the end but it still points to high. So I do not need a riser but a "lowerer" (!). I cannot get it to aim low enough.
 
I've seen Tavors with Eotechs installed and they seem to zero well without any additions or reductions. Are you sure it's mounted properly. I don't mean to offend you, but I've seen s**t in my time that make your nose hair curl.

Not sure if your holosight is defective in some way. Is this a used Eotech where someone may have forced the knob past its extreme position one way or another?

If your other sight systems work well, so should the Eotech.
 
What do you mean "it points too high"? Your response should involve groupings that are too high, not visual appearances. If it shoots too high its an issue, pointing too high is a personal problem.

TDC
 
Thefactory base is a different spec spacing than a picotiny rail. Eitherpony up and buy a dlask rail (ive seen all 3 and dlask's is the best bar non) or check to see your eotech isnt a airsoft clone...
 
Ok, I will try another way.
If I shoot the rifle the way it is setup now, The bullet impacts a good 6" below the point of aim (at 50 yards). Following the arrow indicating the proper rotation, I reach the max. adjustment available.

I will check the installation but I am usually ok with these things. And I checked, the eotech is genuine. Buying another rail is not my #1 choice I already paid fr this one. I will mount the eotech on another rifle to verify...

Any other ideas welcome!

Nic
 
If the rail you have now isn't compatible with the Eotech, it won't do you any good as the sight will not sit properly on it, nor sit at the correct height.
 
Try turning the elevation the opposite way. If the arrow indicates up and it refers to the reticule moving up then the point of impact moves down. Same with windage, if your reticule is moving to the right then your point of impact will move to the left, or vise-versa.
 
Guys I know how to setup a scope. The issue is what to do when I'm out of adjustment range. On a "normal" setup I could (and have done so in the past) shim the mount, replace the mount with a 20 MOA slope version, ... But here the rail is connected to the barrel in a way that these standard remedies do not work. I wonder what else is there that I can do, if anything...
 
A sloped rail will not solve this problem properly. Does the Eotech work properly on other firearms? I've used an Eotech no problem on my Tavor with a 999 and Rauch rail.

The optic is likely screwed up or does not sit properly on the factory base. Adding a sloped base doesn't really solve the issue.
 
You're not using the sloped handguard rail are you?? Those are for under the handguard to make the handguard's angle be parallel to the barrel when installing something like a foregrip.

Where are you installing this rail? Right above the trigger or at the most forward area on the handguard? Can you add some photos to clarify things?

Sorry, it's kind of hard to ask some questions without giving the impression of offending you.

There are a lot airsoft rails out there as well. Are you sure you have a genuine one?
 
Wtf???

f:P: My God, I do not understand anymore...

First things first. This is the rail I have on my Tavor. It's the factory rail (IWI).
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I setup a target in my basement, this is what it looks like through the barrel (that picture took a while to take!):
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And this is what it looks like in the Eotech:
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Heu... WTF??? It is ok! Well after some adjustments obviously. So I do have enough correction now... :confused:

I took the Eotech off the rail to take pictures, and when I put it back, the result is good! Bad installation? I did not put it back exactly on the same spot on the rail? Or maybe I overtightened the screw? That would tilt is back if overdone...

BTW, do you know what torque value should be used with an Eotech?

So range test next weekend to confirm this... Part of me wants it solved, part of me wants it to happen again, I do not have a clue what happened!

Nic
 
First off, sounds like the optic was mounted crooked, as expected. I'm surprised you didn't take it on and off a few times during your initial trouble shooting. Oh well, lesson learned.

Secondly, you are going to be shooting really, really low when you take that to the range. Keep in mind that your Eotech is around 4" above the barrel. At that short distance in your basement, you should have the dot around 2" - 4" about your target.

For the torque of the mounting clamp, use a quarter and hand tighten it snug. Don't need to over do it, it's only .223.

Guys I know how to setup a scope.
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And that is why you don't take offense to people giving basic instructions. ;)
 
Armedsask said:
And that is why you don't take offense to people giving basic instructions. ;)
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I knew that one would come back and bite me :), it's my first time with Eotech or that kind of "small" optics. I am more of a long range guy. But I had setup all other optics fine before, so ..

And I was not offended, that's one thing I don't like about email or chat, no body language.

Confirmation during weekend fire test.

Nic
 
The other problem is you might have all the experience in the world but everyone has brain farts.

Just ask the .22 in my gun room with the cleaning rod stuck in the barrel. :eek:
 
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