Etiquette Rant!!!!

Turkeyslayer 1300

Turkeyslayer 1300

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So today me and my dad decide to go for a walk and see if we see any grouse so we grab the winchester and go for a walk, we also decide to take the dog with us. We are walking a gas pipeline row for about an hour,we stayed in basicly the same spot for an hour kicking brush and just enjoying the fall. As we are going back to the car the dog takes off to one side of the row, and as the dog reaches the edge of the cut we here a voice yell call of the dog or you'll be sorry. What the heck! we had no idea anyone was there and if we had been alerted to the hunter who was up in a treestand we would have left without disturbing the are with our and our dogs odour. I believe that alerting other hunters to your presence is a common safety practice. I wish that what happened hadn't but I think the other hunter handled it very poorly, coincidently both me and dad were wearing full blaze orange.What do you think?
 
ehh, shyt happens, there is just no way, with all the camo and stuff to know if you are disturbing someones hunting spot

I would just call the dog and walk away, someone is already having a bad day:p
 
I would have asked him what he meant by "you'll be sorry" right before I took a piss on the tree he was sitting in. Meeting other hunters in areas of public access is a fact of life, uttering threats isn't. He can't claim that he felt threatened by your dog, being in a tree stand and all. There are always people that think they own the place, just because they graced it with their presence.
 
certain incident from few years ago, comes to mind, that happened in states, when a banch of guys came accross someone who though he owned the place, ended up with few people shot dead and the shooter on a death row now, I hope
 
the person in the stand must of seen when you entered and watched yas walk away and come back.guess he was pissed you did not spook anything in his direction
 
Not right for the guy in the stand to be calling threats to you or your dog for sure! But on the other side of the fence if your sitting dead quiet in a treestand & you see a couple guys walk by... way over there.. are you expected to holler at the top of your lungs to inform them of your presence??
 
yea maybe his comment was off the wall but did you ever stop and think leting your dog run around may disturb someone elses enjoyment of the area?

you call it Etiquette but yet you let your dog run loose and spook game in a area were people hunt on crown land during hunting season?
 
bone-collector said:
yea maybe his comment was off the wall but did you ever stop and think leting your dog run around may disturb someone elses enjoyment of the area?

you call it Etiquette but yet you let your dog run loose and spook game in a area were people hunt on crown land during hunting season?
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Kind of where I was going with this as well. Agreed the guy was a donkey, but my friend and I leave both of our dogs at home when we go hunting in crown land in the fall. I'd suggest that the OP does as well. At least when there is an open bigger game season. If it is just chickens and nothing else open, then go for it, but when people are hunting deer and moose, keep the dog at home.
 
rhino519 said:
certain incident from few years ago, comes to mind, that happened in states, when a banch of guys came accross someone who though he owned the place, ended up with few people shot dead and the shooter on a death row now, I hope
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See here for details : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chai_Vang

The whole sordid event was nothing but an atrocious display of of the worst sort of hunting etiquette imaginable from start to finish: trespassing, using stands without permission, racist bullying, massive and egregious violations of Rule no. 2, murder, attempted murder, criminal prosecutions, and what's worse, probably a wasted deer, too.

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Crown land is public domain whether you are a deer hunter, a birdhunter, a hiker, a berry picker,a camper, ATV rider or anything else. The guy in the tree stand has no more right to the area than you do. He may be frustrated because you are in "his" spot but that is just the way it is. Tough luck. He has some nerve hanging his tree stand in "your" bird spot anyway. I can't count the times when somebody beat me to "my" spot. People like to give each other some space, but #### happens. It's part of hunting.
 
gitrdun said:
Understanding the other person's enjoyment of the area is one thing. Ushering threats is another.
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Exactly. The threat made was "You'll be sorry". No mention was made of harm to the dog.
I've seen people stake a claim to Crown land, hanging fake no hunting signs, and writing their name on permanent stands. I've had an outfitter tell me his American clients didn't like locals in "Their" area, and that they had "Pretty big guns". So far I haven't been directly threatened, and would be putting a stop to that business. As far as that goes, I've about had it with the hints and implied threatsand warnings too.
When a hunter hangs a tree stand at the beginning of the right-of-way, does he own everything past that point for the duration of the season? I don't think so.
 
bone-collector said:
yea maybe his comment was off the wall but did you ever stop and think leting your dog run around may disturb someone elses enjoyment of the area?

you call it Etiquette but yet you let your dog run loose and spook game in a area were people hunt on crown land during hunting season?
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sorry but if the dog is used for hunting then there is not a problem . ( I have hunting dogs) secondly i have come across people with their dogs off leash enjoying the outdoors hikeing etc fishing etc just like I am enjoying the outdoors when i am hunting and a simple greeting and perhaps polite conversation ensues. Unless someone purposly goes out of their way to disrupt a hunter then it is no harm no fowl and just one of the many variables of enjoying the outdoors with likeminded people doing the same as I am on public land.
 
I don't think I'd have handled it very nicely either. You're out in the pickies with your mut. He's not on a leash....big f-ing hairy deal. Some JACKASS spouts off a comment like that....hummmmm....put the dog back in the car, and pull out a couple of cases of clay pigeons right next to his precious spot and have at er for the rest of the afternoon!!!
 
Barracuda said:
sorry but if the dog is used for hunting then there is not a problem . ( I have hunting dogs) secondly i have come across people with their dogs off leash enjoying the outdoors hikeing etc fishing etc just like I am enjoying the outdoors when i am hunting and a simple greeting and perhaps polite conversation ensues. Unless someone purposly goes out of their way to disrupt a hunter then it is no harm no fowl and just one of the many variables of enjoying the outdoors with likeminded people doing the same as I am on public land.
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great well then you would know in BC the law states your dog must be under your control/supervision at all times on crown land ;) NOT running around loose "aimlesly", and you would also know that it is unlawfull to interfear with a legal hunt in progress ;)

I would like to think someone screaming about anothers Etiquette would have done what they could to hold some themselves ;)

and good call there blacksmithden, enflame a already crappy situation, oh well guess it takes all kinds, but Im sure you will be nicer after you get that pigeon chucker removed from your azz ;)
 
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bone-collector said:
yea maybe his comment was off the wall but did you ever stop and think leting your dog run around may disturb someone elses enjoyment of the area?

you call it Etiquette but yet you let your dog run loose and spook game in a area were people hunt on crown land during hunting season?
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Excuse me!

They were "hunting grouse". Bird hunting involves the use of a dog. They had every right to be in the woods with their dog.

The tree stand jerk, was well, a JERK! He could have alerted them to his presence and they probably would have vacated the area with the dog. :jerkit:

Threatening "you'll be sorry" is an ####### thing to say. Me, I would have taken my axe and cut down his tree! I am very accommodating, but don't pee on my leg!
 
bone-collector said:
great well then you would know in BC the law states your dog must be under your control/supervision at all times on crown land ;) NOT running around loose "aimlesly", and you would also know that it is unlawfull to interfear with a legal hunt in progress ;)

I would like to think someone screaming about anothers Etiquette would have done what they could to hold some themselves ;)

and good call there blacksmithden, enflame a already crappy situation, oh well guess it takes all kinds, but Im sure you will be nicer after you get that pigeon chucker removed from your azz ;)
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Bull####...I'll be dammed if I'm going to tie up my dog on a leash when travelling through crown land. Sounds like someone who lives in the big city argument. Threaten to shoot my dog?....lol.
 
I don't think you did anything wrong. Your dog was out with you and you were lawfully pursuing grouse.

The fellow in the treestand may have been a bit peeved, but he has no grounds for threats.

How long does he think grouse hunters and thier dogs are going to hang around in an area, anyway?:rolleyes:
 
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