that tactical model fabarm looks WAY better... I owned a pro forces and later sold it, found the long pump handle to have a bit of friction on the reciever if holding it at the back, I really shoulda kept the gun though, while the light weight meant serious felt recoil, it would also be a really great backup gun to keep on your back. it IS a very nice looking gun with a seriously awesome feel, and those fiber optic sights are outstanding, but if you plan to shoot lots with it and show off how cool it is, youre gonna be in for a bit of a sore shoulder if you dont shoot lots of heavy recoil guns. its also a very pricy gun, but if you want a tricked out pump 12 guage its cheaper than buying an 870 and doing it up (although probably not cheaper than working from a norinco).