Failed cartridges....

I think the new Ruger compact magnums have very little chance to succeed, I can't imagine yet another series of short magnums making it. The WSM's will last, but not the SAUM's and the RCM.
 
One element to consider is, if you can't buy it in a hunting store or local hardware shop up north. They your FUBAR in a big way.
 
Some guy here took a 30/30 case and necked it up to .375.

He was going to name it Gatehouse .375,but Winchester allready named it the .375 Win.

I think it didn't catch on very much.

Bob:p


No, you are talkign about the 375 Bone Collector.:p

I've never seen a need for a375 Win in my collection. Or a 375 Bonez.:cool:
 
I think the new Ruger compact magnums have very little chance to succeed, I can't imagine yet another series of short magnums making it. The WSM's will last, but not the SAUM's and the RCM.

Have the RCM's failed yet?:p

It appears Ruger wants in one ht e short mag thing, but doesn't want to pay off Jamison.;)
 
just exactly HOW different is the 300 savage from the 308 winchester?- it's just a matter of just running a reamer in there or can the old actions/steels not take the pressure?- i've often seen a nice 99 in 300 but stopped short b/c i've already got the 308
 
Whenever a new cartridge comes out, there seems to be a fair amount of nay sayers that say "better stock up on brass, it won't be around for long"

I heard this abotu the RUM's, the SAUM's, the WSM's, the WSSM;s, the 204 Ruger, the 480 Ruger, the 17HMR..gawd knows what else...Sometimes the predicitons were accurate, sometimes not.

The WSM's are more popular than ever. The 204 seems to be growing a following, the RUMs dont' appear to be going anywhere soon...

What cartridges, introduced in lets say the last 10 years, have actually failed miserably?

The only ones I can think of are the Remington SAUM series. Even though they were good cartridges, they came out on the heels of the WSM, and they had just a teeny bit less velocity.

I would wonder what you would actually think is a failure if you don't think that any cartridges have failed. The 270 and 300 WSM's are doing well, but the 7mm WSM is gone. All three of the WSSM's are toast. The 325WSM is hanging on by a thread. The 6.8SPC was killed by Remington itself. Both the 7mm and 300 RSUM's are gone. While the 7mm and 300RUM's are hanging on, both the 338 and 375 RUM's are toast. The 204Ruger is doing well. I would suspect that both the 300 and 338 RCM's will fail. Last but not least, the Ruger 375 and 416 have not been chambered by any other conpanies; there may be rumors that one company may, but don't believe it until you see it. Just because one of us happens to like a cartridge doesn't mean that it will be a commercial success. I happen to like the 35 Whelen, but commercialy it has been tetering on failure with only Remington and Occasionally Ruger chambering for it; this is not successful, it is a company attempting to sell a few guns by offering them in a caliber that is not normally available.

By the way, even though I mentioned that the 7mm and 300 RUM"s are hanging in doesn't mean that the will not soon die. Only Reminton chambers for them, and they could drop the calibers tomorrow if they get all of the inventory sold that they have.
Mike
 
Ironically, I just picked up a dusty box of Federal 7-30 Waters shells from a workwear shop in Lindsay, Ont., today. I know that the 7-30 Waters is outside the 10 yr or so window. However the whole line of Imperial Magnum cartridges and rifles is pretty close to the 10 yr window and, unfortunately, completely failed. I have one of each of the rounds that I purchased from Ellwood Epps when he was still selling cartridges. They were the 7mm, .300, .311, .338 and .360 Imperial Magnums
 
How about the Ruger .300 & .338 RCM. Another abortive short mag. Then there is also the Federal 338
 
This is a 2 year oldf theread..So whose predictions were correct?:)

LOL, I was right about everything, except predicting someone would resurect a two year old friggen thread...wow.
How is that Ruger working for you Gatehouse?
 
LOL, I was right about everything, except predicting someone would resurect a two year old friggen thread...wow.
How is that Ruger working for you Gatehouse?

Works great. It's a great rifle design, and the cartridge is simple to load for, not finicky, and it's easy to hit to 450 yards.:)

the 375 Ruger is a very well balanced cartridge that blends a perfect mixture of performance, shootability, accuracy and easy feeding case design. It's no wonder that Ruger has been selling these rifles like crazy.
 
Good to see the 375 Ruger wasn't doomed as predicted. I remember when they resurected the 416 Rigby and said a few will buy such a gun and then sales will die off. That was in 89 or 90 that I read that and I am on my second Rigby and have 4 real big bores. I have more big bores than small bores like the doomed WSM's and other junk that we don't need. I hope they all live:rockOn:
 
While the 7mm and 300RUM's are hanging on, both the 338 and 375 RUM's are toast.
Mike

The 7mm RUM is hanging on? I hear quite a bit more about the 338 RUM than I do about the 7mm RUM. I would have thought the 7 and 375 would have been your top dead RUM picks.
The 300 RUM is actually doing quite well, so it maybe the only one to last any length of time.
Too bad about the 7rum as it is a very good long range calibre. It picks up where the 300 RUM starts to drop at the further distances.
 
Good to see the 375 Ruger wasn't doomed as predicted. I remember when they resurected the 416 Rigby and said a few will buy such a gun and then sales will die off. That was in 89 or 90 that I read that and I am on my second Rigby and have 4 real big bores. I have more big bores than small bores like the doomed WSM's and other junk that we don't need. I hope they all live:rockOn:


There was never any doubt in my mind that the 375 RUger would be a great success. Just as I knew the 300WSM and 270WSM would be a success.....:)
 
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