Farm Predators

Picking them off hasn't taught them much other than to wait until the yard quiets down for the night.

I've knocked some down during the day but in my limited experience there's still enough of an attraction keeping them coming back.

I've had them out around the pasture at various ranges down to standing in the coop with a bird in mouth.

I'm familiar with their usual lines of travel when simply passing by, but no snow this year and they do skulk around the buildings in the yard.

I shot one just over 200 yds last Sunday as the sun was going down, he was standing in the field calling to my dogs.

They are definitely more active after dark in my immediate area, as I said I've used the ir setup to watch them gather in the pasture behind the barn.

I will ask one of my neighbors about the rm, he's on the council and also has had livestock in the past.

As for the other neighbors, they are all on board for controlling the predators, most have cattle etc.

Get a mean dog.
 
Yeah, I was going to advise a big old farm dog or even two, plus shooting on sight. Even a missed shot is educational for the critters, or maybe particularly so since they will pass it on to their young.
 
Funny you mention the big farm dog. My wife and son got a Pyrenees cross puppy this past summer, she's about 9 months old now.

She hasn't spent a night outside to date. :rolleyes:

I won't win that battle.
 
Funny you mention the big farm dog. My wife and son got a Pyrenees cross puppy this past summer, she's about 9 months old now.

She hasn't spent a night outside to date. :rolleyes:

I won't win that battle.

The ones we had and that others around here have were pretty determined that they do not like the inside even a little bit...so I was going to say you may have an unexpected ally at some point... though at 9 months it should have already kicked in... (would need a winch to get our latest pup into the house since 5 months - he takes his job very seriously, but he was born in a sheep barn) Mix with what? Maybe in this case the mix has prevailed? Also LGDs tend to be very loud if they hear something outside - a few nights of waking up constantly will help you in your battle of 'working dogs are happiest when outside" :)
 
Funny you mention the big farm dog. My wife and son got a Pyrenees cross puppy this past summer, she's about 9 months old now.

She hasn't spent a night outside to date. :rolleyes:

I won't win that battle.

Just be careful with that dog, as the vet instructed us, its a working dog, not a pet... Let it do its job.

We had a Pyrnees/Maremma cross. He was great predator protection, but the wife also tried to make him a pet. He was very calm and friendly, till he wasn't. We ended up putting him down when he was about 8 yrs old as he got agressive towards us. One day he was sleeping under tractor and when I approached he would not let me get on it? By the tone of his growl he was not messing around. I happened to have a 24' pipe wrench in my hand and thought about taking my chances, then thought against it.... Then he did the same to the wife shortly after when she went out to start school bus... then he got a lead earplug.

I' not saying they are all that way, but he did exactly what the vet told us he would do if we made a pet out of him. He was also intact if that makes any difference. He was not the only outside dog either, as we had(still do) a german shepherd cross female outside as well.

As to protecting your livestock, shoot on sight. I'm not waiting till daylight to shoot a yote thats killing a calf at 2am.... Protecting livestock is not hunting.
 
We have 2 Great Pyrenees dogs , one is 10 years old he is 165 lbs, been the best dog we have had he has never been aggressive to us , we treat our dogs right, he protect our place , and hates coyotes, he some times comes inside for a night of rest, other wise he like s out side , our new one is about 6 months old she comes inside also , but is starting to like it out side more now, she is still a puppy full of energy , the big old guy is a lot slower than he used to be , but still can move when he figure he needs to, our German shepherd lab cross is getting old also , the new Great Pyrenees sleeps beside her to protect her already ,
Yes barking is a constant problem some nights, but we’re in the country so we can here other dogs also barking at night.
They are also out pets and all like to cuddle and be petted , GOD help anybody who try’s to come in out house when there inside with us it will not end well for them, , are try to come in the yard when not invited, they lets us know , you can tell by the bark if something is not right in the yard , not the normal bark at coyotes howling at night
 
Get a mean dog.

Might lock the chickens up at night as well, when most problems happen, coyotes are not likely to bother a larger calf . Skunks , weasels and owls are another potential problem you might consider. One of my neighbors has a fair number of "free range" chickens. They're confined in movable covered pens and relatively safe.
 
Poultry is the hardest for dogs to protect, many will in fact kill them.

As too Pyrenees getting aggressive as they get older, it may be their eyes are failing as they absolutely recognize people by sight. And just take a look on the buy and sell for pictures of Pyreneeses with eye problems.
 
Poultry is the hardest for dogs to protect, many will in fact kill them.

As too Pyrenees getting aggressive as they get older, it may be their eyes are failing as they absolutely recognize people by sight. And just take a look on the buy and sell for pictures of Pyreneeses with eye problems.

This is book knowledge, but it's important for the owner of a dog to introduce it to the poultry and let it know they are not prey. Just holding them and saying no until they stop lunging at them seems to be the big first step.
 
We have a pair of donkeys to protect our beef from predators, they do an exellent job.

Let me guess. You named them Justin and Christia.

Back to the op. If it isn't always going to be 《50 yards. The king of predator calibers is 22-250. Older ones are 1-14 twist, the other common twist is 1-11. That stuff might not matter to you, just like preserving hides. If your buying factory ammo, it's still better than 223 handloaded.

If you reload, want a predator/deer round how about 243 win. Wouldn't recommend it if you don't reload. Canadian tire/Walmart 243 is almost always 100gr and milk toast limp.
 
Let me guess. You named them Justin and Christia.

Back to the op. If it isn't always going to be 《50 yards. The king of predator calibers is 22-250. Older ones are 1-14 twist, the other common twist is 1-11. That stuff might not matter to you, just like preserving hides. If your buying factory ammo, it's still better than 223 handloaded.

If you reload, want a predator/deer round how about 243 win. Wouldn't recommend it if you don't reload. Canadian tire/Walmart 243 is almost always 100gr and milk toast limp.

Well I never met a coyote that didn't respond to .223, and I want to keep my handloading to a few specific cals so that's the one I use. I'm actually getting a new rifle built as we speak, then I'll be playing with some 69 gr matchkings instead of the bulk 55 gr I've always used.
 
Yeah. Based on living there from 1992-1999-ish, SK put it in Law that there was to be no discharge of Firearms at Night, which conveniently bypassed the excuse of the poaching set that "we always used lights"!

Not that a million candlepower spot, is in any way comparable to a hand held torch.

Best advice I have. Talk to you local CO's. Pest control on a farm is usually a very different thing than Hunting! If they can't clear you to do what you need, they may point you at a fella that does the deed,either for free or for a price. That info will guide you to a decision.
 
Yeah I'm going to stick to daylight hours. The sightmark is definitely a neat tool but it will remain as is, strictly observation. The daylight mode isn't great quality so it's not even worth putting on a rifle unless a guy felt like recording video of a shot.
 
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