favorite black bear HUNTING caliber
- Thread starter brybenn
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Were they introduced to new Zealand? I know all the deer were.
If they had grizzly and cape buffalo and moose its almost one stop hunting. Almost
bigborefan
Regular
- Location
- Kawartha Lakes, ON
See my last blog: a 200 lb and a 400 lb both killed with a single shot from my friends .270 Win. First one heart shot at 35 yds and made a mad dash into thick bush, bawled and died. NOTE: it made 35 yards with a 2-inch hole through the heart!!! The shooter was 35 yds away! He was lucky the bear didn't come in his direction! The other, a 400 lb boar, also made 35 - 40 yards with a 150gr NP through the lungs. It plunged into a thick tangle and I found it in the dark due to its bawling 11 times! Both were still and broadside when shot! Yes, a .270 will kill a 400 lb bear, but it won't stop one unless its a CNS hit!
I've used many from 7mm Wea to .458 Win Mag and without hesitation -- BIGGER IS BETTER! A .45-70 or .458 will flatten a bear WITHOUT a CNS hit if you don't use an elephant bullet! It will stop them, not just eventually kill 'em! I wonder how I know that from over 30 years of annually hunting and doing some guiding for them. A 12ga with Challenger or Brenneke-type slugs at around 1600 fps is excellent also if range is limited to 60 yds or so from smooth bores. Rifled barrels do a bit better at 100.
This year my 9.3 X 62 gets a workout shooting the 250 AB consistently at sub-moa to 100 yds at MV of 2714 fps avg/4088 ft-lbs. Range from stand to bait is 100 yds and 3580 ft-lbs. The bear attending my bait has killed a horse in the past and in the 500 lb class.
The feeblest I'd ever use for serious bears is a .308 Win with 180s. But the .300 mags are much better. I just did a review of bear kills of humans from 2000 to mid-2015. The numbers are way up from previous decades. Just this week another kill of a trapper in N. Ont.
When I bait bear, I'm on his turf and need to be fully alert and prepared for an encounter! And it will NOT be with bear spray! In my view, and experience, it would be hard to beat an 1895 Marlin in .45-70 with 350gr to 405gr (or 465gr cast) handloads making around 2000 fps. (the 465gr cast at 1900).
Bob
www.bigbores.ca
haha,, Nah mate no Grizz in NZ, biggest predator they have is a Possum I think... or a couple spiders that's poison wont kill a fly. haha
its the outdoors mans country... outdoorsmen without sidearms.
Send a couple of them Goats over here and Aus has it all.... mice to Buff, camel , donk, all deer bar a few, no bears though.. Koala and Drop bear but you wont see them
WL
Qc_BearHunter
CGN Regular
- Location
- Pont-Rouge, Qc
I've shot them with 270 winchester and 130-150 grains bullets, .50 caliber ML with 250 gr. .45 cal bullets, 300 win Mag with 180 grains bullets, 308 win with 180 grain RN buillets, 338 WM with 250 grains bullets and since 2008 I hunt almost exclusively with a bow, 70# hoyt, 500+ grains arrows tipped with 125 gr Slick Trick Magnums. When shot properly with any caliber or arrow, they don't go very far, 150 ft max.
That means nothing but the only one that fell in his tracks like a bag of potatos after a double-lungs-top-of-the-heart shot was with the 308 win and 180 grains Hornady round nose Interlock.
That means nothing but the only one that fell in his tracks like a bag of potatos after a double-lungs-top-of-the-heart shot was with the 308 win and 180 grains Hornady round nose Interlock.
.458 Win running 350 hornady round noses at 2300ish fps Right around 4000 Ft Lbs at the muzzle, plenty flat shooting for any range you'll be shooting bear over bait, hits like a freight train.
Not even remotely necessary, .308 works fine, 30-30 even, but it's a great excuse to take out the old violator, since there's a distinct lack of elephants and cape buff around these parts.
Not even remotely necessary, .308 works fine, 30-30 even, but it's a great excuse to take out the old violator, since there's a distinct lack of elephants and cape buff around these parts.
Yup - One went 75 yards - another went 25 ft.
Ya just have to squint a bit and a bear can look a lot like a cape buff, and a bison almost a twin to an elephant, and a moose well, it's just a long legged brother to the rhino...........
