Fiber-optic bead sights

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Guys im looking for any firsthand experience with fiber-optic sights on a 12ga.
I want to replace the bead on my bps because i cant see it anymore after camo dip and cerakote.
As of right now i have a green hiviz bead sight in my cart with bullseye.
So far that seem to be the best ive found.
 
Guys im looking for any firsthand experience with fiber-optic sights on a 12ga.
I want to replace the bead on my bps because i cant see it anymore after camo dip and cerakote.
As of right now i have a green hiviz bead sight in my cart with bullseye.
So far that seem to be the best ive found.

What do you use the gun for
Cheers
 
If you are shooting Clay's or wingshooting focusing on the bead is fundamentally wrong
If you are aiming a Deer or Turkey gun there might be some good in a fibre optic bead.
JMHO.
 
I think both replies thus far are heading in the same direction. If you're wingshooting, a bead is useless. If you're using the gun for deer or turkey where you take aim like a rifle, then a fibre optic sight can be useful especially in low light conditions
 
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I will not go so far as to say a bead is totally useless, just peripheral in your vision. Focus should be on the target.
I find a gobby big fibre optic sight a distraction. It would be replaced by a modest sized bead in a second, on any gun of mine.
 
I will not go so far as to say a bead is totally useless, just peripheral in your vision. Focus should be on the target.
I find a gobby big fibre optic sight a distraction. It would be replaced by a modest sized bead in a second, on any gun of mine.

For me its useless. With the exception of my turkey gun, if the bead was taken off of any of my shotguns, I wouldnt even notice. But I am definitely on board with what you said about using a modest sized bead. My favorite would be a small brass bead
 
HIVIZ are great and will work well in most situations..i find they help considerably when hunting deer in forested areas where light can be challenging for sighting.
 
I love fiber optic sights on a shotgun, especially rifle sights. If you use a shotgun in any way where sights are a plus fiber optic sights are hard to beat, I don’t find they get in the way when I have the opportunity to wing shoot. The majority of the time I’m upland bird hunting it’s ground swatting so sights are great in that moment but it’s not hard to ignore the sights and just point the gun and focus on the bird if wing shooting.
 
Fiber optic sights and a wing shooting shotgun don't belong together. If you are not going to be using it for still targets leave it be the way it is. Try it first on some clays and then decide.
 
Just put a dot of white paint on the existing bead on your BPS. That way it's there if you need it to aim it at a turkey or deer, but it's subtle enough that it's not a distraction if you're wingshooting.
 
Some of the best competition shooters in the world use them or even go to the extreme of chalking the vent rib for better barrel awareness. Tests have been done with folks shooting clays at night and scores went down until better sights and/or barrel chalking was used.

No one should be looking at the bead when wing shooting but every good wing shooter is subconsciously barrel aware. I have shot with some very good shooters and each of them are aware of what happened if they miss. They are very aware where there barrel is pointing even though their concentration may be focused on the flight and behaviour of the target. Anyone that believes they can feel exactly where their shotgun is pointing without peripheral vision should try shooting from a comepletely dark area or blind folded for that matter.

I am absolutely baffled how someone would need fibre optic sights to hit a stationary target when they can whack a baseball sized target whipping by at 40 or 50 miles an hour with no barrel reference.

I personally love fibre optic sights especially as my sight has diminished over the years. It allows me to insure a clean mount through my peripheral vision without losing focus on my target. It is especially helpful when changing from my upland guns that fit ever so slightly different than my waterfowl guns or when extra layers of warm clothing alter length of pull a bit. I am not aiming or using the bead as a sight. My duck gun is a Maxus and I can shoot it with a heavy Mustang Floater jacket on in the early mornings and equally well with a shirt on in the afternoon. I can pick up the green fibre optic without a second thought and just concentrate on shooting.

In a perfect world we would all shoot a few thousand clays a year and be able to mount a shotgun quickly and consistently. We would use a perfectly fitted custom shotgun and each of our shotguns would fit indentical to the other if we own more than one. We would not have to wear winter coats/extra layers when hunting ducks and light shirts and vests when upland hunting. In reality, the vast majority of hunters do not practice nearly enough to mount a gun consistently under ideal circumstances let allow the scenarios that a wing shooter faces in the field. They have the shotgun they purchased off the shelf as recommended by a buddy or may even borrow a shotgun for the one or two times they venture out for a goose shoot or duck hunt.

A good sight IMO allows people to concentrate more on the target not less. Most all modern shotguns come with because many people like them including some of the best shooters in the world. To suggest, which seems to be the cool thing to do, that beads are a useless accessory on a shotgun is absurd. Vent rib shotguns with fibre optics are 1000 times more popular than a plain barrel and I think it goes without saying that a plain barrel shotgun with no bead whatsoever would sit on store shelves forever.
 
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Not worth commenting. Too many here must run the 100 on a regular basis, or even run a 50
NOT
Beads have their place in shotgunning but not in day light wing shooting or any clays games FULL STOP
Must be why back in the day they were known as "miss me" balls
Cheers
 
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Some valid points in MK2570 post. But I do not agree with his opening sentence.

While some people may find value in a bead, many other shooters don't. I cant speak on behalf of anyone else, but for me a bead on a wingshooting gun really only serves one purpose and that is to determine how the gun fits me when I first shoulder it. Once I have determined gun fit, its pretty much non existant for me. I cant say I’ve ever found a bead a distraction because its never something I look at. If it went missing, I probably wouldnt even notice it until I went to put my gun into its case.

As mentioned earlier, if a shooter is aiming a shotgun like they would a rifle in situations like deer and turkey hunting or finishing off a cripple, then a bead may become more useful. But these situations arent really relevant to clays shooters
 
If one is that easily distracted from their target maybe they shouldn’t be handling firearms. Some of the best competition shooters in the world use them or even go to the extreme of chalking the vent rib for better barrel awareness. Tests have been done with folks shooting clays at night and scores went down until better sights and/or barrel chalking was used.

No one should be looking at the bead when wing shooting but every good wing shooter is subconsciously barrel aware. I have shot with some very good shooters and each of them are aware of what happened if they miss. They are very aware where there barrel is pointing even though their concentration may be focused on the flight and behaviour of the target. Anyone that believes they can feel exactly where their shotgun is pointing without peripheral vision should try shooting from a comepletely dark area or blind folded for that matter.

I am absolutely baffled how someone would need fibre optic sights to hit a stationary target when they can whack a baseball sized target whipping by at 40 or 50 miles an hour with no barrel reference.

I personally love fibre optic sights especially as my sight has diminished over the years. It allows me to insure a clean mount through my peripheral vision without losing focus on my target. It is especially helpful when changing from my upland guns that fit ever so slightly different than my waterfowl guns or when extra layers of warm clothing alter length of pull a bit. I am not aiming or using the bead as a sight. My duck gun is a Maxus and I can shoot it with a heavy Mustang Floater jacket on in the early mornings and equally well with a shirt on in the afternoon. I can pick up the green fibre optic without a second thought and just concentrate on shooting.

In a perfect world we would all shoot a few thousand clays a year and be able to mount a shotgun quickly and consistently. We would use a perfectly fitted custom shotgun and each of our shotguns would fit indentical to the other if we own more than one. We would not have to wear winter coats/extra layers when hunting ducks and light shirts and vests when upland hunting. In reality, the vast majority of hunters do not practice nearly enough to mount a gun consistently under ideal circumstances let allow the scenarios that a wing shooter faces in the field. They have the shotgun they purchased off the shelf as recommended by a buddy or may even borrow a shotgun for the one or two times they venture out for a goose shoot or duck hunt.

A good sight IMO allows people to concentrate more on the target not less. Most all modern shotguns come with because many people like them including some of the best shooters in the world. To suggest, which seems to be the cool thing to do, that beads are a useless accessory on a shotgun is absurd. Vent rib shotguns with fibre optics are 1000 times more popular than a plain barrel and I think it goes without saying that a plain barrel shotgun with no bead whatsoever would sit on store shelves forever.


Pretty tall soapbox you have there!

While I agree with a lot of what you say, I do take exception to the comment that fiber optics sights are 1000 times more popular. The only people who are enamored with fiber optic sights on wing shooting guns are some north Americans, the Europeans seldom use them at all.
 
Yeah, that opening comment is confrontational and serves no purpose. I do get annoyed when people trash on other people’s gear and methods when we are all suppose to be in this together. I know fibre optic sights are not for everyone and even the thought of having them on my classic side x sides makes me cringe. But to each their own, I love my Maxus for waterfowl and the barrel, vent rib and fibre optic bead is a big part of that.

I will edit my post and remove the offensive remark.
 
Not worth commenting. Too many here must run the 100 on a regular basis, or even run a 50
NOT
Beads have their place in shotgunning but not in day light wing shooting or any clays games FULL STOP
Must be why back in the day they were known as "miss me" balls
Cheers

I have seen people go as far as to add the accessory hi-viz bars on the ribs of their shotguns for shooting clays, but those people, are not the ones I see shooting the higher scores. I wonder if that is only a coincidence?
 
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