Finally Found An Enfield No 9 .22

Hey thanks for all the great information and answering all my questions. If the last 400 are Mk 2 actions then that puts mine out of that range. It would have had to have been the last 868 or so.
I am not sure why you are saying I need a trigger guard? Here is a couple pics of mine.
Another quick question. Should the bands from a No 4 Mk 1 work as well?
Also where are you located? Anyway have a look at the pics and get back to me with your thoughts. The barrel crown is appropriately stamped as seen in the bit all be it a bit rough.

Doug
 

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When you restore it, you should be able to sell the Parker Hale/Sile stock set to offset the cost a bit.
 
Stock wood can be found here in Canada. Prestigious stock woods makes reproduction stocks. Quality is good. I have found a few bands off of eBay in the UK. Also Australia and New Zealand have a lot of parts available. Finding original wood does happen but normally takes some time as your looking for a property marked stock that matches your rifle. I’ve been rebuilding SMLE’s and No. 4’ for a few years and sometimes that one part can take years to find. As an example it took 4 years to find the proper hinged front band to fit my OL marked Long Branch. Sometimes the fun is in finding the parts instead of the actual build.
 
Snider shooter said:
Stock wood can be found here in Canada. Prestigious stock woods makes reproduction stocks. Quality is good. I have found a few bands off of eBay in the UK. Also Australia and New Zealand have a lot of parts available. Finding original wood does happen but normally takes some time as your looking for a property marked stock that matches your rifle. I’ve been rebuilding SMLE’s and No. 4’ for a few years and sometimes that one part can take years to find. As an example it took 4 years to find the proper hinged front band to fit my OL marked Long Branch. Sometimes the fun is in finding the parts instead of the actual bui
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Snider shooter,

Thanks for the valuable information. One more question for you or anyone in the post. Does a No 4 mk 2 fore end fit on the No 4 mk1 action? I know the reverse is not possible. Thanks.

Bobcat789
 
jtaylor said:
Hi Bobcat789. Bedding is not required on the .22 rifles converted using the No.4 Rifle body. Yes the early years of No. 9 .22s
converted for the Royal Navy used resurfaced (by machine) walnut stocks and used the Mk I actions heavily suncurite painted with the tie plate to the rear of the fore. Rare are the last few that are only blued but use beech woodwork on later No.4 Mk 2 bodies. All these rifles should have a Mk I rearsight with 25 YD inscribed. As previous post states serial 2799 with yours at 2142 and mine at 2735. The pattern is evident and maybe a best guess is that Mk 2 actions on the last 400. I have attached 2 pics of 2735 showing the body markings and more importantly the fore. It is a Mk 2 fore (and trigger guard) that has been converted from a Mk I with tie plate removed. A piece factory inplanted and drilled for the screw. Also appears a small diameter wood dowel thru the fore for unknown assistance. I also slapped in a quick pic of my Brit No. 7 serial 0129.
All the No 9s were converted on contract by Parker Hale and so marked with dates of 56 - 60. Contractors are not an armoury so they converted what the government sent them.
I am expecting a nasty note from a gent from the west about my using a No. 9 designation. The EM2 was only produced in limited trial numbers. Canada made 10. I do not have the book on them but I do know that the EM2 project was long gone by 1956. I had a box of ammo (long gone now) dated April 1947 from Frankfurt Arsenal. It was not a habit of placing an official designation on trials items so by the time the Navy .22 order was approved they could call it near anything as the FN was in production and named with the new nomenclature system. I will always call this pattern of .22 a No. 9. Too bad for me.
In your shoes I would get on E-Bay and contact some of the stock suppliers in the UK. They may be able to sell you a cross bolt/nut and a trigger guard appropriate and maybe a full set of Mk 2 woodwork with bands. This won't be cheap but Mk 2 spares in Canada are near non existent. I don't think Can. Customs will diapprove. John T.
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Jtaylor,

Thanks for the information. Did you see the pictures I posted of my rifle? In your opinion is the action blued? Again, a rookie collector here. Can No 4 MK 2 furniture be fitted to a No 4 mk 1 action? I know the reverse cannot due to the trigger differences. Thanks.

Doug
 
The Mk2 will fit on a Mk1. A block needs to be made to be put in the rear space around the screw. I have a Montecarlo sporter stock that has the block. Hole drilled in it for the screw. Not glued in. A spacer to stop the rear from being bowed in. Many mk1 stocks were modified by the military to mk2’s. Band removed. Wood glued into the holes. Hole drilled for the screw. Wood removed from the rear to make space for the trigger block.
 
Snider shooter said:
The Mk2 will fit on a Mk1. A block needs to be made to be put in the rear space around the screw. I have a Montecarlo sporter stock that has the block. Hole drilled in it for the screw. Not glued in. A spacer to stop the rear from being bowed in. Many mk1 stocks were modified by the military to mk2’s. Band removed. Wood glued into the holes. Hole drilled for the screw. Wood removed from the rear to make space for the trigger block.
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Ok thanks. So obviously, No real adjustments required when putting a mk 2 foreend onto a mk 2 action then. Or is there if it is replacing a sporterized stock?
 
The Sile sporter stocks were made to work with either a Mk. I or a Mk. 2 action.
Mk. I service stocks were altered to fit Mk. 2 rifles, but this involved inletting patches to fill where the strap ends were, installing the screw escutcheons and making the cut for the trigger hanger.
 
A reproduction stock will always needs some fitting. The Prestigious stock need wood off the draws and rear of stock. Extra wood is there to allow stocks to be properly fitted. Original stocks may fit perfectly or not. I have had to add wood to the draws to make them fit properly. It all depends on what forestock you get, what you will need to do. Putting Lee Enfield’s together and having them shoot well is a bit of art. First couple rebuilds seemed hard, now it seems easy.
 
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