FINALLY Mossberg 715T/P magazine capacity decision...!!!

I must be wrong here, but I read this as the magazines are 100% legal...

Gimli said:
Nope.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-98-462/page-2.html#h-4

3. (1) Any cartridge magazine

(a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in
(i) a semi-automatic handgun that is not commonly available in Canada,

(ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun,
(iii) an automatic firearm whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger,
(iv) the firearms of the designs commonly known as the Ingram M10 and M11 pistols, and any variants or modified versions of them, including the Cobray M10 and M11 pistols, the RPB M10, M11 and SM11 pistols and the SWD M10, M11, SM10 and SM11 pistols,
(v) the firearm of the design commonly known as the Partisan Avenger Auto Pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, or
(vi) the firearm of the design commonly known as the UZI pistol, and any variant or modified version of it, including the Micro-UZI pistol; or

(b) that is capable of containing more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun that is commonly available in Canada.

(2) Paragraph (1)(a) does not include any cartridge magazine that

(a) was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that
(i) is chambered for, or designed to use, rimfire cartridges,

(ii) is a rifle of the type commonly known as the “Lee Enfield” rifle, where the magazine is capable of containing not more than 10 cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed, or
(iii) is commonly known as the U.S. Rifle M1 (Garand) including the Beretta M1 Garand rifle, the Breda M1 Garand rifle and the Springfield Armoury M1 Garand rifle;

(b) is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that
(i) is commonly known as the Charlton Rifle,
(ii) is commonly known as the Farquhar-Hill Rifle, or
(iii) is commonly known as the Huot Automatic Rifle;

(c) is of the “drum” type, is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm commonly known as
(i) the .303 in. Lewis Mark 1 machine-gun, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Lewis Mark 1*, Mark 2, Mark 2*, Mark 3, Mark 4, Lewis SS and .30 in. Savage-Lewis,
(ii) the .303 in. Vickers Mark 1 machine-gun, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Mark 1*, Mark 2, Mark 2*, Mark 3, Mark 4, Mark 4B, Mark 5, Mark 6, Mark 6* and Mark 7, or
(iii) the Bren Light machine-gun, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Mark 1, Mark 2, Mark 2/1, Mark 3 and Mark 4;
(d) is of the “metallic-strip” type, is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for use in conjunction with the firearm known as the Hotchkiss machine-gun, Model 1895 or Model 1897, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Hotchkiss machine-gun, Model 1900, Model 1909, Model 1914 and Model 1917, and the Hotchkiss machine-gun (Enfield), Number 2, Mark 1 and Mark 1*;

(e) is of the “saddle-drum” type (doppeltrommel or satteltrommel), is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for use in the automatic firearms known as the MG-13, MG-15, MG-17, MG-34, T6-200 or T6-220, or any variant or modified version of it; or

(f) is of the “belt” type consisting of a fabric or metal belt, is not a reproduction and was originally designed or manufactured for the purpose of feeding cartridges into a automatic firearm of a type that was in existence before 1945.

(3) Paragraph (1)(b) does not include any cartridge magazine that

(a) is of the “snail-drum” type (schneckentrommel) that was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that is a handgun known as the Parabellum-Pistol, System Borchardt-Luger, Model 1900, or “Luger”, or any variant or modified version of it, including the Model 1902, Model 1904 (Marine), Model 1904/06 (Marine), Model 1904/08 (Marine), Model 1906, Model 1908 and Model 1908 (Artillery) pistols;

(b) was originally designed or manufactured for use in a firearm that is a semi-automatic handgun, where the magazine was manufactured before 1910;

(c) was originally designed or manufactured as an integral part of the firearm known as the Mauser Selbstladepistole C/96 (“broomhandle”), or any variant or modified version of it, including the Model 1895, Model 1896, Model 1902, Model 1905, Model 1912, Model 1915, Model 1930, Model 1931, M711 and M712; or

(d) was originally designed or manufactured for use in the semi-automatic firearm that is a handgun known as the Webley and Scott Self-Loading Pistol, Model 1912 or Model 1915.

(4) A cartridge magazine described in subsection (1) that has been altered or re-manufactured so that it is not capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be, of the type for which it was originally designed is not a prohibited device as prescribed by that subsection if the modification to the magazine cannot be easily removed and the magazine cannot be easily further altered so that it is so capable of containing more than five or ten cartridges, as the case may be.

(5) For the purposes of subsection (4), altering or re-manufacturing a cartridge magazine includes

(a) the indentation of its casing by forging, casting, swaging or impressing;

(b) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a steel or aluminum casing, the insertion and attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or aluminum, as the case may be, or of a similar material, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method; or

(c) in the case of a cartridge magazine with a casing made of a material other than steel or aluminum, the attachment of a plug, sleeve, rod, pin, flange or similar device, made of steel or of a material similar to that of the magazine casing, to the inner surface of its casing by welding, brazing or any other similar method or by applying a permanent adhesive substance, such as a cement or an epoxy or other glue.
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Gimli said:
Only those that were manufactured before the pistol came out. Those manufactured after fall under 3.(1)(b).
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Wrong. Those designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun are limited to 10 rounds. These magazines are designed and manufactured to be used in either the rifle or the handgun and are thus prohibited.
 
Tell me when your coming to get my legally purchased property, so I can be ready. You will be soooo surprised! I may find you on shift and surprise you! See: I made cookies to go with the tea. Didn't see that coming did ya? Bam! Cookies. Careful, the tea is hot.

More surprises in store.

Bam! Banana bread too.

*Note: This post encourages the feeding of snacks to those that would seize your property. Those that hide behind the "I'm just doing my job, even if it's unjust." cover story will receive an equal number of high fat snacks, though I will not bake them with the same satisfaction. In this country, there is no legal defense of property theft, so be careful you do not over serve, and run this risk of being charged with assault with a deadly muffin.

Those in uniform that ignore internal injustice, you make us all proud. "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." -Thomas Jefferson
 
5440fight said:
Tell me when your coming to get my legally purchased property, so I can be ready. You will be soooo surprised! I may find you on shift and surprise you! See: I made cookies to go with the tea. Didn't see that coming did ya? Bam! Cookies. Careful, the tea is hot.

More surprises in store.

Bam! Banana bread too.

*Note: This post encourages the feeding of snacks to those that would seize your property. Those that hide behind the "I'm just doing my job, even if it's unjust." cover story will receive an equal number of high fat snacks, though I will not bake them with the same satisfaction. In this country, there is no legal defense of property theft, so be careful you do not over serve, and run this risk of being charged with assault with a deadly muffin.

Those in uniform that ignore internal injustice, you make us all proud. "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." -Thomas Jefferson
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Is the banana bread pinned to the legal limit?
 
762Russian said:
Is the banana bread pinned to the legal limit?
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The banana bread is up the current legal requirements. By the time I have posted this, the laws, or the interpretation of said laws, may have changed. By the time you have read this, it may have changed again. I'm not a kitchen legal expert, and only offer advice as it pertains to taste, not legal advice. If you shower some political parties with money, you will get promises, that are worth less than the mass emails that make them, but what do you want, to make decisions? Get back in your cage, give them half of your life's efforts, shut up, and get baking.
 
I agree with you on this 100% and I'm sure we are not the only ones. So good for Mossberg, they just ruined their Canadian market.
 
Well... i'm just so glad i bought a Ruger that i can dress up with a ton of stocks on the market and i can even put a 100 round drum mag on it

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Gimli said:
Only those that were manufactured before the pistol came out. Those manufactured after fall under 3.(1)(b).
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BigUglyMan said:
Wrong. Those designed or manufactured for use in a semi-automatic handgun are limited to 10 rounds. These magazines are designed and manufactured to be used in either the rifle or the handgun and are thus prohibited.
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I feel like I've taken the wrong pill...the one that I've swallowed is making me ill...

I just might pin mine to ten rounds just for the fun of showing off that lovely little rivet seeing as I cannot be trusted with this magazine the way it was designed. Hell, I just might go and buy myself a 10/22 or an SR-22 and a 110 drum magazine for the fun of it and shoot all day long with no issues...might even shoot holes through my 715T magazines...if I could find the damn things. Come to think of it, I haven't seen them since that fishing trip a little while back when the boat capsized...
 
The blade cuts both ways, alas. We get to enjoy LAR-15 & .50 Beowulf pistol magazines in our rifles. The flip side of this is the reclassification of rimfire magazines like the Mossberg 715, Ruger BDX-25, S&W M&P-15, etc... Doesn't have to make sense, its Canadian firearms law.
 
I owned 2 Mossberg's a 12ga 500 and a 715T, with the bullcrap of sending the 715 back for repairs new out of the box twice, and now this mag issue I've sold them both never to darken my gun locker with any Mossberg ever again.
 
wow i just told my buddy he had to get his pinned lol he said why the fn rifle jams every third shot anyways and hung up on me, lol
 
Who would buy one of those butt ugly mossberg pistols anyways. These once great companies are no more. All mostly junk unless you have deep pockets and even then. My friend bought a Weatherby that started to rust a year later. Now plastic for guns is called "milspec" polymers or "we're sucking you in to make more money while using Asian labor".
 
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