VinnyQC
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Quebec city
If they didn't do it at the factory, a 50-200$ overhead would quickly kill the 300$ handgun market.
Firearms marking
- Thread starter CanAm
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If they didn't do it at the factory, a 50-200$ overhead would quickly kill the 300$ handgun market.
There is some debate as to whether the marking could be applied before importation, as the regulations clearly state that the marking are to be applied within 60 days "after" release by CBSA or before transfer of ownership. Whichever occurs first.
MARKING OF IMPORTED FIREARMS (Bill C-10A Regulations)
3. (1) Every individual, business or public service agency that imports a firearm shall ensure that the firearm is marked in accordance with section 4 before the 60th day after its release as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Customs Act or before transferring the firearm, whichever occurs first.
MARKING OF IMPORTED FIREARMS (Bill C-10A Regulations)
3. (1) Every individual, business or public service agency that imports a firearm shall ensure that the firearm is marked in accordance with section 4 before the 60th day after its release as defined in subsection 2(1) of the Customs Act or before transferring the firearm, whichever occurs first.
CanAm
Canada Ammo - CGN Sponsor
- Location
- Vancouver, BC
Refuse? They have been doing for years already.
Cameron SS
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Ground Zero
Norinco has been marking their guns with Canadian Marking Regulations markings for years?
All my norincos have EXPORTED BY NORINCO markings. Not one has CAXX markings. And whether they have already been doing it for years or not, the regulations currently being discussed were not in force, so it isn't exactly proof of whether CBSA would accept Time of Manufacture markings as Import markings.
AMET
Regular
- Location
- Strath-vegas
whats gonna happen?
Well, since no guns are legally able to enter without the mark, the CBSA will stop EVERY gun shipment in saying they don't met the regulations.......then simply gun off supply which will mean no more guns for anyone.
But thats just my .02. Im just a no one.....
Well, since no guns are legally able to enter without the mark, the CBSA will stop EVERY gun shipment in saying they don't met the regulations.......then simply gun off supply which will mean no more guns for anyone.
But thats just my .02. Im just a no one.....
I'm not sure what this comment is supposed to mean but I am not convinced that export markings will be acceptable substitute for import markings.
Are you suggesting you will simply refuse to comply?
Nobody cares about your $300 Norinco but marking a $3000 firearm is a different matter.
CanAm
Canada Ammo - CGN Sponsor
- Location
- Vancouver, BC
Yes, they all have CAXX somewhere visible; at least the ones we have. Usually at the serial number
Is that because it is a run for Can Am? Like the SAMs imported by Wolverine all have serial numbers starting with W
FF
FF
- Location
- Republic of Alberta
She won't pay because she's probably sleeping with a gangbanger that owners smuggled guns with no serial numbers. lol
- Location
- Republic of Alberta
My biggest issue is if the gun is blued and then gets engraved because no you have to reblue the gun to make sure it matches nicely.
Or ceracoat!
Some information from the Customs Act and the Customs Tariff:
Customs Act. s.35.01
Marking of Goods
Marginal note:Requirement to comply with marking regulations
35.01 No person shall import goods that are required to be marked by any regulations made under section 19 of the Customs Tariff unless the goods are marked in accordance with those regulations.
1993, c. 44, s. 83;
1997, c. 36, s. 155.
35.02 (1) [Repealed, 2001, c. 25, s. 30]
Marginal note:Notice requiring marking or compliance
(2) The Minister or any officer designated by the President for the purposes of this section may, by notice served personally or by registered mail, require any person
(a) to mark imported goods in accordance with the regulations made under section 19 of the Customs Tariff, within such reasonable time as may be stipulated in the notice, if there has been a failure to comply with section 35.01 with respect to the goods; or
(b) to comply with section 35.01 in respect of any goods designated in the notice that will subsequently be imported by the person.
Customs Tarrif s.19
Marking of Goods
Marginal note:Regulations requiring marking
19 (1) The Governor in Council may, on the recommendation of the Minister, make regulations
(a) requiring imported goods of any description or class, including a description or class specified in terms of the use of the goods, to be marked, in accordance with regulations made under subsection (2), so as to indicate their country or geographic area of origin; and
(b) for determining the country or geographic area of origin of imported goods for marking purposes.
Marginal note:Regulations prescribing marking requirements
(2) The Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness may make regulations for the purpose of the administration of this section, including regulations prescribing
(a) the manner in which imported goods must be marked and any conditions applicable to the marking of the goods; and
(b) when imported goods must be marked, including whether they must be marked before or after importation, and any conditions applicable to the time of marking.
Marginal note:Applicability of regulations
(3) Regulations made under this section may apply generally or be limited to particular countries or geographic areas defined in the regulations.
According to this, CBSA can require marking post-importation and can enforce the same if they so choose.
Customs Act. s.35.01
Marking of Goods
Marginal note:Requirement to comply with marking regulations
35.01 No person shall import goods that are required to be marked by any regulations made under section 19 of the Customs Tariff unless the goods are marked in accordance with those regulations.
1993, c. 44, s. 83;
1997, c. 36, s. 155.
35.02 (1) [Repealed, 2001, c. 25, s. 30]
Marginal note:Notice requiring marking or compliance
(2) The Minister or any officer designated by the President for the purposes of this section may, by notice served personally or by registered mail, require any person
(a) to mark imported goods in accordance with the regulations made under section 19 of the Customs Tariff, within such reasonable time as may be stipulated in the notice, if there has been a failure to comply with section 35.01 with respect to the goods; or
(b) to comply with section 35.01 in respect of any goods designated in the notice that will subsequently be imported by the person.
Customs Tarrif s.19
Marking of Goods
Marginal note:Regulations requiring marking
19 (1) The Governor in Council may, on the recommendation of the Minister, make regulations
(a) requiring imported goods of any description or class, including a description or class specified in terms of the use of the goods, to be marked, in accordance with regulations made under subsection (2), so as to indicate their country or geographic area of origin; and
(b) for determining the country or geographic area of origin of imported goods for marking purposes.
Marginal note:Regulations prescribing marking requirements
(2) The Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness may make regulations for the purpose of the administration of this section, including regulations prescribing
(a) the manner in which imported goods must be marked and any conditions applicable to the marking of the goods; and
(b) when imported goods must be marked, including whether they must be marked before or after importation, and any conditions applicable to the time of marking.
Marginal note:Applicability of regulations
(3) Regulations made under this section may apply generally or be limited to particular countries or geographic areas defined in the regulations.
According to this, CBSA can require marking post-importation and can enforce the same if they so choose.
CanAm
Canada Ammo - CGN Sponsor
- Location
- Vancouver, BC
Not sure, they just come that way,have for many years
