First build help
- Thread starter Southcountryguy
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Nah, I dont know enough at all.
I just like picking around with stuff.
I told ya already,ha ha
Insight Arms ,out of Loyld Minister.
They're also a site sponsor.
One of the Smith's is a member on here.
Furtaker.
This company is
one of the best and they'll walk you through it.
They are well known on here and I dont ever recall seeing a bad review.
You probably could spend that much but don't think you need to. Big Horn Sales (for one) sell new actions so you don't have an old barrel hanging around. Buying a donor rifle is an option if you are planning on using the factory stock. Remington is popular and good. Most gunsmiths will true up the action as a part of the build, extra cost but worth it. There are several after market actions based on the Remington 700 footprint (anything that fits a 700 will fit on them like triggers and there are a ton of triggers available), they are more in cost but you don't have the added cost of a gunsmith squaring things up. If not going with the factory stock there are several to choose from. I'm not much into synthetic stocks so really can't recommend one. For wood there is the Boyd's line to start.
Action/trigger you're close on, barrel you're roughly double what it is, more than double actual cost on a Boyd's but don't know about synthetic and smith won't be that high - say half what you indicate, the only thing I don't recall being mentioned is scope rings
Thanks, my costs are arbitrary.
I am expecting this build to cost $4k. I know I can get super custom jobs for $6k
This is a rare build so I expect to pay a big more.
End of the day this is what I want and not scared to pay. Shouldn’t be a problem, right?
I always wanted Kimber Montana in 250-3000.
1. Buy a kimber Montana 84L new or used
2. Buy a benchmark #2 25 caliber barrel blank from Gary Eakin at bighorn sales.
3. Send both to Gary Flach and tell him:
A) What colour you want it
B) What length you want that barrel
C) How light you want the trigger
It’s that easy and you will be left with a good looking, better handling, even better shooting weatherproof hunting rifle that weighs about 6 lbs without a scope and drives tacks at the range
If you prefer fine walnut and blued steel, substitute the Montana for a classic select and follow the same steps.
1. Buy a kimber Montana 84L new or used
2. Buy a benchmark #2 25 caliber barrel blank from Gary Eakin at bighorn sales.
3. Send both to Gary Flach and tell him:
A) What colour you want it
B) What length you want that barrel
C) How light you want the trigger
It’s that easy and you will be left with a good looking, better handling, even better shooting weatherproof hunting rifle that weighs about 6 lbs without a scope and drives tacks at the range
If you prefer fine walnut and blued steel, substitute the Montana for a classic select and follow the same steps.
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L[QLUOTE=Grey_Wolf;17860776]Nope not at all. Do you have a reamer for your cartridge selected?[/QUOTE]
I don’t. Is this something I should source?
The 250-3000 has a deep and strong emotional attachment for me. I originally was going to do the build in it but I do have a few I can shoot so thought I’d put a twist on it.
For some reason I never thought of a kimber. I was sort of set on a 700 thinking I could have the best of both worlds but buying a injected light stock for hunting snd then a chassis for the bench.
Thanks again for responses. Every question helps me make a better choice.
SCG
I don’t. Is this something I should source?
The 250-3000 has a deep and strong emotional attachment for me. I originally was going to do the build in it but I do have a few I can shoot so thought I’d put a twist on it.
For some reason I never thought of a kimber. I was sort of set on a 700 thinking I could have the best of both worlds but buying a injected light stock for hunting snd then a chassis for the bench.
Thanks again for responses. Every question helps me make a better choice.
SCG
The advantage of owning your reamer is you can order it with a throat made for the bullet you wish to use seated at the oal you want... and down the road duplicate the chamber and be able to continue using your existing brass in a new barrel with no problems...
Labour costs are the absolute lowest part of a build...
Labour costs are the absolute lowest part of a build...
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Perfect, this is the kind of info I am looking for. I want to do this right. I don’t know for certain but I was thinking something like 110 grain ELD-X or Berger 115 VLD’s as my main bullet. I honestly don’t know enough to know what OAL I would want the kinda of thing I would need help deciding.
*edit* what are the drawbacks if I choose another bullet down the road? I do see some bullets suggest a specific twist..
Thanks for your time.
SCG
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Seat the straight portion of the bullet no deeper than the bottom of the neck is kind of a standard, the boat tail (if any) can go into the shoulder. This has worked well for an awfully long time...
You can't make it perfect for every bullet...
I am pretty sure a 9 twist will work with the vld's. Go with what does work with vld's, it won't harm shorter bullets all that much if any...
You can't make it perfect for every bullet...
I am pretty sure a 9 twist will work with the vld's. Go with what does work with vld's, it won't harm shorter bullets all that much if any...
Okay I was under the impression you were saying I could get the reamer to suit the OAL of the bullets I planned on using. I understand where they are seated when loading but was unaware I could change the OAL. Also unaware of impact it has (good or bad) on barrel life or accuracy. Going to try and research this more. Thanks for bringing it up so I can get educated.
Regarding the reamer who would folks suggest I contact?
TIA
SCG
I'd start with Guntech
You need to figure out what and where your buying your parts.
Then talk to a knowledgeable/ qualified Gunsmith.
Then send him your parts and the rest is history.
A one stop shop would be nice.
The only one that I know of,that should be able to get you everything, including a reamer , is Bighorn tactical.
And you get the reamer back..
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Dave Manson makes excellent reamers
JGS makes excellent reamers
These are two makers I would recommend.
You will have to seat a bullet in a case to determine your oal and go from there... or talk to the reamer maker and see what they have to say...
JGS makes excellent reamers
These are two makers I would recommend.
You will have to seat a bullet in a case to determine your oal and go from there... or talk to the reamer maker and see what they have to say...
I don’t. Is this something I should source?
SCG[/QUOTE]
If you are going for something "off the wall" you may need to or find a smith that has the reamer you are looking for. I'm sure they stock a range of reamers but something AI they may not have.
Others further down outlined some advantages of owning your own so I won't repeat
If you are going for something "off the wall" you may need to or find a smith that has the reamer you are looking for. I'm sure they stock a range of reamers but something AI they may not have.
Others further down outlined some advantages of owning your own so I won't repeat[/QUOTE]
Thanks, I have learned lots from you guys over this.
I am going to start sourcing parts soon just need to talk to a few more folks for advice.
SCG
You might be able to fit a Barnard SMS action into that budget. http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2020/02/new-barnard-sms-action-from-whidden-gunworks/
one of the sponsors (Hirsch Precision) sells them. I think a Barnard SMS in 260 Rem would be nice but a 250AI sounds interesting
Thanks for another action possibility!!
.260 rem is my fav hunting cartridge (in BC) of which I own many (all factory).
This cartridge (250 sav imp) is intriguing plus has a lot of family history (250-3000). As well should be a fun and easy on the wallet rifle. I am drifting away from the large caliber, high recoil, expensive to shoot rifles in my old age...the days when nose bleeds and severely bruised shoulders from recoil are long gone and not fun anymore.
SCG
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I have a bunch of 250AI brass and loaded ammo your welcome to have, I’ll PM you.
Backcountryal
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- New Zealand
I like your choice of calibre, and the last rifle Im hoping to build for myself will either be a std 250, or a 250 AI. No need for justification, wanting is all the reason you need. For me personally I would like something like the Rem Model 7 action, or, if I can find one, an 1960's BSA regent action. A #2 contour barrel [I think], and fitted to either a high end carbon fibre classic style stock, or a simple classy walnut stock. I will have the barrel and action Ceracoated in a matt "blue" colour so it looks like an old school matt bluing job. And top it all off with a Kahle's 1.5-6 scope. I would recommend some research in to barrel twist, standard 25 cal twist rate is 1 in 10, maybe 1 in 9 would suit the heaviest projectiles.
And see if you can find a gunsmith that explains the actions and consequences for each and every part of the build. Like is 1-9 gonna be better, if so how far out do you want to seat the projectile, which will require x amount of room in the mag, does your action choice have that length of mag, or will it require a custom mag. Each choice you make will have something that needs to be considered. Is there a stock of your choice with the appropriate inletting for your action choice? Choose a gunsmith thats happy to help you with all the alternative components and who wants to enjoy the build as much as you do.
And see if you can find a gunsmith that explains the actions and consequences for each and every part of the build. Like is 1-9 gonna be better, if so how far out do you want to seat the projectile, which will require x amount of room in the mag, does your action choice have that length of mag, or will it require a custom mag. Each choice you make will have something that needs to be considered. Is there a stock of your choice with the appropriate inletting for your action choice? Choose a gunsmith thats happy to help you with all the alternative components and who wants to enjoy the build as much as you do.
