First ever bear hunt

Exactly. So why not a nice sized calibur rifle "headshot" boom, dropped, dead.
PS When the heck did I ever say there were grizzlies in Ontario? last time I checked, Newfoundland isn't in Ontario lmao.
 
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northwoodslivin said:
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i think you are under the impression a big magnum caliber will kill quicker than any other adequate caliber for the job. Thats just not correct.


A hole thought the boiiler room will kill approximately the same amount of time, regardless of the entry hole being .243 of an inch of .338 of an inch.


The whole "stopping power" of a certain cartridge is a whole other thread.
 
northwoodslivin said:
Exactly. So why not a nice sized calibur rifle "headshot" boom, dropped, dead.
PS When the heck did I ever say there were grizzlies in Ontario? last time I checked, Newfoundland isn't in Ontario lmao.
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You said you did not know if there were grizzlies in Newfoundland or not. Anyone who makes a comment like that in a Canadian hunting forum would probably think there were grizzlies in Onterrible :rolleyes:

Educate yourself, stay in school boys and girls :)

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EDIT: Sorry, didn't realize you were from Newfoundland, I am not sure if there are gizzies there or not.
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Chinook, your .30-06 will be plenty of gun for a black bear. We grow em pretty big here in Newfoundland, commonly 500 lb but sometimes exceeding 680 lb, but a 150-180 gr bullet is still adequate. Will you be hunting over a bait pile(s) ?
 
northwoodslivin said:
Exactly. So why not a nice sized calibur rifle "headshot" boom, dropped, dead.
PS When the heck did I ever say there were grizzlies in Ontario? last time I checked, Newfoundland isn't in Ontario lmao.
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i would never advise a new huter to go for a head shot on anything .to much room for error
 
I took a nice bear in the spring, at just under 10 yards, a head shot NEVER even entered my mind. I know I can hit grouse at that distance but they can't kick my ass if I mess up!!!
 
dumbdawg said:
i would never advise a new huter to go for a head shot on anything .to much room for error
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not a new hunter, just my first bear. The shot will depend on what is presented. If it's just the head then that's what will get hit.
 
Well some real good advice here for you Chinook, I took a record blackie last year here in NB, 565lbs, with guts out, weighed at DNR on real approved scales, not bathroom ones,lol.
Back home (NFLD) the black bear is a different sub species than the rest of Canada, and can easily weigh up too 650-700 lbs, ive seen it myself, the bears feed on Caribou calves on the calving grounds, as well as moose calves, I once saw a video that Shane Mahoney shot, (He is the chief wildlife biologist for NFLD) of a black bear taking down an Adult cow moose, it was amazing!!
As for rifle choice, whatever is comfortable and you know you can shoot with! I shot mine with a sporter 303, synthetic stock, aircraft alum scope mount and a 6 power Bushnell. The shot was 58 yards from a 39 foot portable tree stand, 1 shot the bear ran maybe 50 yards to the brush, and that was it, when we opened him up, there was no heart there, just chunks.

Have fun Chinook, the Northern Pen is amazing that time of year, I should be up in area 2 myself, filling my either ### tag, around the same time as you go up there, lots, I mean lots of gut piles on the old logging roads to watch. Have fun man

PS ill shoot ya a pm, for that info about the HLC guy, thanks

Ryan, oh by the way im 6"1 285, for comparison, look at the size of this guys head, measured 21 5/16 boone and crockett

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dumbdawg said:
i would never advise a new huter to go for a head shot on anything .to much room for error
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I agree with Dumbdawg :eek: lol.. ( does'nt happen often!) :p Anyhew, in my training for my Hunter's Safety Course the instructor advised not to go for the head.. ( skull is too thick!) Patience is a virtue ;)
 
grouseman said:
+1

this guy just gets better and better:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :D
he doesn't seem to understand that a miss with a 30-30 and a miss from a 338win mag are the same things:eek: :dancingbanana:
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If you didn't jump the gun and actually took the time to read my post I was making referance to having a powerful gun to headshot a bear "running up your tree where your tree stand was"

Get better? your getting more immature and childish with each and every post..... just what do you mean by a miss from a 30-30 and a miss with a 338win mag are the same thing? well of course, a miss is a miss, but if you know your gun and what shoots best with your gun then I guess you wouldnt have a problem with missing now would you?

I would tend that a miss would be more likely with a 338win mag from the recoil opposed to a 30-30, so yes kiddo, I do know the difference ;)
 
mommabear said:
I agree with Dumbdawg :eek: lol.. ( does'nt happen often!) :p Anyhew, in my training for my Hunter's Safety Course the instructor advised not to go for the head.. ( skull is too thick!) Patience is a virtue ;)
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EXACTLY!!!! why I suggested the most powerful calibur. See, a certain couple of you are misunderstanding me. If you took the time to read my posts I said I had a friend have a bear run up his tree where his stand was on. In a SITUATION like that, I would want the most POWERFUL rifle for just that "skull penetration"
heh..
 
northwoodslivin said:
EXACTLY!!!! why I suggested the most powerful calibur. See, a certain couple of you are misunderstanding me. If you took the time to read my posts I said I had a friend have a bear run up his tree where his stand was on. In a SITUATION like that, I would want the most POWERFUL rifle for just that "skull penetration"
heh..
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We truelly are not misunderstanding you. There has to be a reason for that particular bear to run up your friends tree stand. Bears are afraid of you! Was the bear wounded?, was it a female bear, cubs around?

Also, why did buddy allow the bear to run up the stand in the first place? I would have blasted him before it had the opportunity! $hit and I haven't even been hunting yet! :rolleyes:
 
chinook said:
What do you guys reccomend to use for bait pile. What works the best?
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Basically anything that is available to you.. your left overs, ect. Just not berries or what they are used to eating 'cause that is boring...lol.. they already have that in supply! Fish is not recommended.

We have saved up bacon fat, pork rinds , they seem to be drawn to fat's .. ( hibernation up and coming ) ;)
 
mommabear said:
We truelly are not misunderstanding you. There has to be a reason for that particular bear to run up your friends tree stand. Bears are afraid of you! Was the bear wounded?, was it a female bear, cubs around?

Also, why did buddy allow the bear to run up the stand in the first place? I would have blasted him before it had the opportunity! $hit and I haven't even been hunting yet! :rolleyes:
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Yes it was a female bear. The person was on his stand when the bear snuck up from behind his tree and started to make her way up the tree. All he heard was one of branches break by the bushes surrounding the tree, he looked below him and the bear was already 1/3rd up the tree, he took her down with a shot between the eye's with a .303.

I know it's strange, but it can happen. The bait bucket and everything was baited 30 yards infront of him. Strange thing's happen is what I am saying. And if you have the rifle, my theory is.. why not use it? If you have had good practice with it and that is the most comfortable rifle you feel that you can accurately shoot. Then why not? I am fully aware that you don't require no cannon to take a bear down. But in a situation like that when it comes to a headshot. I will stand my ground and say that he was lucky he was using his .303. Sure, maybe a .270 could have done the job right? Just saying, the more fire power the better.
Just like, why do guy's hunt grouse with 12 gauges when a .410 would do the job just fine? or even a .22 and have less of a mess of pellets to clean out?

It's just my personal opinion. Too each his own I guess.
 
northwoodslivin said:
If you didn't jump the gun and actually took the time to read my post I was making referance to having a powerful gun to headshot a bear "running up your tree where your tree stand was"

Get better? your getting more immature and childish with each and every post..... just what do you mean by a miss from a 30-30 and a miss with a 338win mag are the same thing? well of course, a miss is a miss, but if you know your gun and what shoots best with your gun then I guess you wouldnt have a problem with missing now would you?

I would tend that a miss would be more likely with a 338win mag from the recoil opposed to a 30-30, so yes kiddo, I do know the difference ;)
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have you ever heard the term buck fever no matter the calibur the same applys to bear chasing up tree and so forth people react different ways to different situations .ever see anyone empty their gun while hunting without it ever going bang
 
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