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- Windsor, Ontario
I like 270 for deer and 30cal for moose, preferably a 300wm... life's too short for just one rifle lol
First hunting rifle
- Thread starter nagol
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No, it's a CZ.
All decent choices. Of you choices I would side with he 270. The main thing is you need to choose what you feel comfortable with. Different rifles will have a different feel. Best to go "shoulder a few". If your talking a CZ FS you can also throw into he mix a 7x57 or 7x64.
I'd go with a .308 Win. Love that caliber but it's my personal fav. Choosing a caliber that you like is kind of like choosing between a Ford or a Dodge pick up, you get what you want unless you have a specific job in mind...
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Any one of those 3 cartridges is a fine choice, there simply isn't enough difference in terms of trajectory or terminal performance to put one significantly above another, and I have rifles chambered for each. To me, the idea of a full stock 6.5 is particularly desireable, but that's a personal prejudice.
Easy to acquire ammo for 308 or 270. If you're shooting coyotes at long range, a 270 might edge out the 308 but really only on paper. A 6.5 Swede seems a good match for a CZ classic. You can shoot moose with it. I took an elk DRT with my 260 Rem, so no reason it can't take a moose. Moose aren't hard to kill IMO. I'd say go with a calibre you're comfortable with and start shooting.
I have three of those rifles and fully concur with your choice of platform...........given the options for cartridges you have given and the assumption that you do not reload yet, as much as it pains me to say this............I would have to recommend the 270. I personally have one in the 6.5X55 and much prefer this chambering but I'm afraid you will be severely limited with factory ammo in the 6.5, the same cannot be said of the 270. As a hunting cartridge for deer and like sized critters the 270 is a better choice than the others. Ballistically superior to the 308 and superior to the 6.5 for factory load availability.
This is a very good choice in rifles and if your tastes don't happen to run towards hunting in the future, the CZ is a fine firearm and you will always get your money back out of it.
This is a very good choice in rifles and if your tastes don't happen to run towards hunting in the future, the CZ is a fine firearm and you will always get your money back out of it.
I plan to start reloading in the near future, my wife needs a pistol and I have been mooning over the 1875 outlaw in 45lc.
The priority currently is getting a capable hunting platform in the safe and finding the wife a handgun she is comfortable with. Once those expenses are covered I will get a reloading station set up.
As for shouldering various rifles, there is only so much available in shops locally. Everyone sticks the the quick sellers.
Thus far, the only platform which I found unbearable was an 858 with the metal folder. Height, angle and LOP were all wrong.
I would love to shoulder the CZ550 but haven't found in stock anywhere and my range is quiet in the winter, mostly the other mil surp guys having fun.
I have noticed this to be an issue, finding stock to handle before committing to a purchase... I'll try posting on the EOSC boards...
The priority currently is getting a capable hunting platform in the safe and finding the wife a handgun she is comfortable with. Once those expenses are covered I will get a reloading station set up.
As for shouldering various rifles, there is only so much available in shops locally. Everyone sticks the the quick sellers.
Thus far, the only platform which I found unbearable was an 858 with the metal folder. Height, angle and LOP were all wrong.
I would love to shoulder the CZ550 but haven't found in stock anywhere and my range is quiet in the winter, mostly the other mil surp guys having fun.
I have noticed this to be an issue, finding stock to handle before committing to a purchase... I'll try posting on the EOSC boards...
Recoil for the two are practically identical. Both spit 150gr pills at 2800-2900fps, so in the same weight/style of rifle the recoil will be very very similar.
The biggest difference to me is the weight of bullets. The 270 spits lighter bullets faster, while the 308 gives the option for 180gr pills whereas 150-160 is about as heavy as you can go in a 270.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Woodleigh makes a .277/180, but you need a 1:8 twist to make it work, so a .277/160 is probably the heaviest useable bullet weight that is available for most .270 shooters. Once the temperature warms up, I'll be interested to see what the velocity is from my 20" full stock .270 SAKO. In theory, the .308 should prove faster from the short barrel, but the chronograph has the last word.
Boomer, the final words in your comment are so true. Case in point: I at one time had 2 - #1 Ruger rifles in 30-06. One was a #1AB, with a 22" barrel, the other a #1B, with a 26" barrel.
With identical loads, the short barrel was always 60 - 100 fps faster than the longer one. There is no way to account for such variances, but the chronograph wasn't lying. To the OP........buy the 270!! D.
Oh you can certainly find pills over 150gr for the 270, but as you note most factory rifles don't have the twist to shoot them. The one common 160gr i can think of is the partition, but it's a round nose bullet so you are giving up some of the ballistics typical of the 270 between the slower starting velocity and faster loss of velocity due to bullet shape compared to a 150gr... At the same time you can get 125gr 30cal bullets, but I personally wouldn't ever use them in a 308.
Some barrels are just faster than others. You can take two consecutive rifles off the assembly line and there could be 100+fps difference between them.
