First Pistol (Update)

Rohann said:
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but the Desert Eagle I actually found quite comfortable. Is this any help into what kind of pistol would fit most comfortably?

-Rohann
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I've handled a DE a couple times and find the fit quite good too. The gun that feels best in my mitts is my HK Mark23, which has about 1/4" greater grip circumfrence than the USP45. But i also find Sig's grips are quite nice also! if you like the "thicker" grips then most double stacked guns should be perfect for you!
 
Rohann said:
Oh I noticed the older version has a manual safety...would this be desirable?
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I think you may be wrong about that. 99% of Sig p226's are traditional SA/DA with only a decocker and no safety. Only some of the the X5's (226 variant) have a safety. These variants are single action only and about double the cost of a basic 226.

The difference between an old gun and a new gun is the same with anything new vs used. The benefit of the 'certified' used Sigs is that they have a warranty which you don't get with most used guns.

The Desert Eagle is an interesting pistol, but in my opinion not practical for any range games like IDPA, IPSC etc... and also not practical for ones first handgun.
 
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F22: Oh okay cool! Yeah I'd love a MK23...maybe someday! Oh okay sounds good. Sorry, what's a double-stacked grip? And how do you measure grip circumference?

raks: Oh really? That's just what I saw listed on Wolverine's site. If there's no button safety then I might just go with the new ones (it'd be cool to put a laser or something on there too, so the rail would be a nice add on). Oh no I fully agree with you; I don't ever plan on buying a Desert Eagle, I just wrote that for the purpose of stating that it fit well in my hands.

Note: I found a website regarding Trigger Grip Length, and I found out I have about a 4.4" GC. Is this any indication to which would fit best (sorry for the constant questions, but as of yet I haven't gotten an opportunity to go shoot anything, so this is all I've got)?
 
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Rohann said:
F22: Oh okay cool! Yeah I'd love a MK23...maybe someday! Oh okay sounds good. Sorry, what's a double-stacked grip? And how do you measure grip circumference?

raks: Oh really? That's just what I saw listed on Wolverine's site. If there's no button safety then I might just go with the new ones (it'd be cool to put a laser or something on there too, so the rail would be a nice add on). Oh no I fully agree with you; I don't ever plan on buying a Desert Eagle, I just wrote that for the purpose of stating that it fit well in my hands.

Note: I found a website regarding Trigger Grip Length, and I found out I have about a 4.4" GC. Is this any indication to which would fit best (sorry for the constant questions, but as of yet I haven't gotten an opportunity to go shoot anything, so this is all I've got)?
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Trigger Grip length won't give you a correct reference becasue the thickness and grip shape also affect a lot.

Trigun
 
raks said:
I think you may be wrong about that. 99% of Sig p226's are traditional SA/DA with only a decocker and no safety. Only some of the the X5's (226 variant) have a safety.
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Some new P220's are SAO with manual safety:

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Rohann said:
Trigun: Then will grip circumference? Is there some way to measure it?

-Rohann
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Grip circumfrence is just the distance around the grip (IE, how big the handgrip is)


If you have one of those small 1/4" wide measuring tapes, just go around the grip and see how big it is.


Double stack is just a double stack magazine (IE, Sig 226 USP 45/.40/9mm Glock 9mm) whereas a Single Stack is like a 1911, HK P7m8/PSP or Sig 220.

DOUBLE STACK:

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Single Stack Magazine
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Hope that clears that up :)
 
Rohann said:
Trigun: Then will grip circumference? Is there some way to measure it?

-Rohann
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Grip circumference can give you a little reference to compare which pistol has a smaller grip. Because I have a XS hand and I am very sensitive to different size of grip. I found the shape of the grip is more important. Comfortable grip will give you more natural pointing and control.

Trigun
 
F22: Oh okay, thanks for the clarification. So assumedly double-stacked pistols' grips are wider?

Trigun: Oh okay, thanks for the clarification. Yeah hopefully I'll be able to handle one soon enough.

Just out of curiosity: what was that other pistols Cruise used in Collateral (the stainless)?

-Rohann
 
Rohann said:
F22: Oh okay, thanks for the clarification. So assumedly double-stacked pistols' grips are wider?

Trigun: Oh okay, thanks for the clarification. Yeah hopefully I'll be able to handle one soon enough.

Just out of curiosity: what was that other pistols Cruise used in Collateral (the stainless)?

-Rohann
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Yep that pretty much sums it up :)




The gun Tommy boy used in Collateral was a bone stock USP45 (revealed when some interviews were taken)

He also used some sort of integrally suppressed Ruger mark2 for the "silent kill" scene(s) ;)
 
Thanks for the clarification! Actually I was referring to nearer to the end where he has the stainless pistol.

So any other tips or info that would be a good idea to know?

Thanks!
-Rohann
 
So: CPO vs. new? Is the new worth the extra $250 that I could rather spend on 1000+ rounds of ammo? Should I expect any accuracy/performance difference? I do like the look of the rail, but I'm not sure if I'll actually put anything on there as I'm not a police officer or on a SWAT team.

-Rohann
 
Rohann said:
Ohh okay, so one with just a safety or a safety/decocker would be best then. So if I were going the USP route, variant 1 or 9 would be desirable?

Yeah I guess that's true, but it would be better if I could just get one with a safety (consistency is good). Are there any 226's with safeties?

See I'd love to do that but I don't know where and the place I do know of are fairly impractical for me to get to. So are USP triggers normally around 7lbs? How much does a match trigger cost for one (generally)?

Oh okay good; having both as an option would be good.

Isn't it a better idea to get the V1 with both so that I have either option (does it cost more or are there any downsides?)?

Thanks!
-Rohann
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Rohann, the glock you shot was a G17 (9mm) with a ported/extended match barrel. You probably didn't like the hoque grip on it. It was customized to me, so it had a 3.5 lb disconnect. You're right, it is generic and blah, but cheap to own and cheap to shoot, and gosh darn accurate. did you ever try the sig?

IMVHO, since you already have a HWSNBN 700, you might as well go balls out for the USP. personally i'm waiting on a norc 9mm 1911 singlestack.

And places to hold guns? Try Bear Den Sporting Goods in Qualicum. Thats the closest out of nanaimo.
 
Oh okay thanks for the info. Yeah I wasn't a big fan of the grip, but that makes sense. No I never got a chance to try the SIG; the guy I was supposed to go with must've forgotten.
Haha yeah I might do that; thanks a ton for that reference though, I had no idea they were up there, but apparently they have 226's in stock so I'm going to go up there tomorrow probably and handle a few to see which fits me best. Are you buying one from them?

Haven't completely made up my mind on which to pick, but it mostly depends on what fits me best and which I like most (hopefully that'll get sorted out tomorrow). I will most definately post pictures once I get it though. I really did develop an appreciation for the SIG though, from what I read and see it's a very well-made service pistol, and it looks pretty awesome too.

Thanks guys!

Oh: so which would be a better bet if I went with a Sig, a CPO or new?

-Rohann
 
I feel anything that has been back to factory for refurb has been thru a thoroough inspection, and if it could save you a few bucks, and don't mind the 'duty' wear, then go right ahead... the money you save goes to ammo.
 
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