first run BCL102 FTE issues

Panzerdagen said:
Got myself a BCL102 from the first run, I was very much excited to take it out hunting.

But.... after shooting several different 308. rounds through it from various manufactures and using various mags I am still having FTE almost every other shot causing stove pipes.

Ive checked the extractor and it looks fine so im at a loss right now.

and yes I did search the threads before making this post so if anyone has a link to the answer or has some advice I am all ears (or eyes as it is)

thanks! :)
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Send it back for warranty.

I find it amazing that when paying thousands for a firearm that people are looking to fix it themselves rather than taking it back to who made it and demanding an operational firearm like you paid for.

The more people that look for a fix and fix themselves without saying a peep let's a manufacturer get away with sloppy quality control forever.
 
Brian46 said:
Send it back for warranty.

I find it amazing that when paying thousands for a firearm that people are looking to fix it themselves rather than taking it back to who made it and demanding an operational firearm like you paid for.

The more people that look for a fix and fix themselves without saying a peep let's a manufacturer get away with sloppy quality control forever.
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Add to that most of the home fixes are from guys who don't really know the platform very well and just install parts to hide what is really wrong with the firearm which is only a band-aid fix that will only hide the problem for a while, then when it fails again BCL/NEA will be able to deny warranty because the firearm has been modified and parts from other manufacturers have been installed.
 
DILLIGAF said:
Youll never own one then...lol... ;)
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That's very possible. I really want one but it needs to run without issue before I lay down the hard earned. Hopefully with time things will get sorted out and they will become as reliable as my AR's, I've spent too much money on guns that don't perform as a new item should.
 
This is why I just kept the upper and lower and replaced the rest. I got no time to waste on nea's piss poor qc

Unfortunately they are the only NR AR10 availible ATM so changing a few parts is the price to pay to have peace of mind.
 
DILLIGAF said:
This is why I just kept the upper and lower and replaced the rest. I got no time to waste on nea's piss poor qc

Unfortunately they are the only NR AR10 availible ATM so changing a few parts is the price to pay to have peace of mind.
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Are they compatible with off the shelf components or are the internals proprietary?
 
Z06corvette said:
That's very possible. I really want one but it needs to run without issue before I lay down the hard earned. Hopefully with time things will get sorted out and they will become as reliable as my AR's, I've spent too much money on guns that don't perform as a new item should.
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BCL (NEA) has been making AR's for years, this has been a problem with their product from day one. If you get a good one it runs great and is a nice rifle, problem is that you never know what you will get and you always take a risk buying their products. The good thing is that they are well known for their great warranty service so as long as you're patient they will replace anything that is not right.
 
Same as Vortex...lol, You buy it knowing it will fail you one day.... lol...

NEA is Norico of the north for a reason...lol...
 
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Accurate

As other have said, I was hoping NEA had learned from past experience that tolerances matter. Maybe the 2nd batch will be better?

I agree with DILLIGAF, it seems you are basically buying a $1750 NR AR10 Receiver set.
 
Wow, so much fail, where does one even start :confused:

Yes, lots of people have been anticipating this rifle, it has nice ergonomics, is easily scoped, takes magazines (up to 10 rounds even) and happens to look good :)

Yes it's $1800, so what, lots of things cost more than other things that do the same thing.

And yes it has teething issues, I don't think it was ever officially stated, but I got the impression it was being released in a beta format, the fact that they keep changing the spec's between runs kind of hints at that, and I accept it, if you don't then simply don't buy one or ask for a refund if you did.

The fact that it is easily modified is part of the fun and charm of modular style rifles, the fact that you can easily install parts that suit you personally whether it be form or function is a good thing.

Why be stuck with something designed to fit someone else if you don't have to.

As to combat lookalike, do you also factor that almost every firearm style was at some point a combat arm before it was adopted to civilian use ?

I'm about as peaceful of a hunter as you get, I haven't shot an animal in nearly 10 years yet I still go out, and plan to take my BCL 102 with me :)




NHunter said:
I must be missing something....
Seems that many have been anticipating this rifle to be the end all to be all...
and at $1,800.00 one would have high expectations...
And yet the issues keep coming and coming....

How many others are confused that this weapon costs $1,800 with a line up....then the issues begin...
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And why the need to own a combat lookalike rifle in Canada....?

Canada remember, not Cambodia...

I grew up feeling that we were a nation of peaceful hunters, and relaxed while fishing....what happened...?
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NHunter said:
I must be missing something....
Seems that many have been anticipating this rifle to be the end all to be all...
and at $1,800.00 one would have high expectations...
And yet the issues keep coming and coming....

How many others are confused that this weapon costs $1,800 with a line up....then the issues begin...
Modify this and that part...

And why the need to own a combat lookalike rifle in Canada....?

Canada remember, not Cambodia...

I grew up feeling that we were a nation of peaceful hunters, and relaxed while fishing....what happened...?
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Well you grew up living a lie. I guess you never really looked at it, since the typical bolt action "hunting" rifle has been based off the military Mauser action. The AR platform has been around since the 60's and is this generations Mauser action. It's build for function and use. The fact it looks cool is a nice bonus. Oh and I have lots of buddies that grew up and still have their FN FAL rifles etc. They bought them back when they were non restricted and some hunted with them. Some of them also hunted with their AR rifles back when they were non restricted.

I'm frankly not a hunter. It's not something I really want to do. I definitively don't view it as "peaceful" unless using a camera. However... the fact I'm not into something doesn't mean I think you shouldn't be able to do it. So please return the courtesy.
 
Dollars to donuts the R&D team at fleshlight have had requests for 24k gold plated flash light shaped devices before LOL

The easiest way to understand the BCL102 is to picture it is a 10/22 in .308 caliber :p

NHunter said:
$1800 worth of self stimulation....and I recall a single word which sums up that phase....;)
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NHunter said:
I must be missing something....
Seems that many have been anticipating this rifle to be the end all to be all...
and at $1,800.00 one would have high expectations...
And yet the issues keep coming and coming....

How many others are confused that this weapon costs $1,800 with a line up....then the issues begin...
Modify this and that part...

And why the need to own a combat lookalike rifle in Canada....?

Canada remember, not Cambodia...

I grew up feeling that we were a nation of peaceful hunters, and relaxed while fishing....what happened...?
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Why would you have high expectations just because it cost $1800? That's actually quite cheap for a non restricted semi auto if you compare to the other options we have. To me $1800 is still in the entry level category and while I do agree that when you buy a complete rifle I expect it to function. If I buy a new car I don't buy it expecting to replace the transmission when I get home just to be able to be able to trust it to get me to work and back. What I would expect when buying a rifle like the 102 is that I'm going to take advantage of it parts compatibility and huge aftermarket to be able to customize it to suit my needs or personal tastes.

I wasn't surprised at all that many of these rifles have issues, NEA (BCL) has a solid track record of inconsistent finished product and poor quality control letting off spec parts make it to the customer. I've built AR-15's using some of their parts and been lucky to get ones that were in spec and functioned well but there is a long history of guys that were not as lucky.

Why do we need a combat lookalike rifle? Because we can legally own one and we want one, there needs to be no other reason. I don't tell you what kind of car to buy or what guns to buy so while I don't concern myself with your choices please don't concern yourself with the choices of others as long as their choices are not infringing on your safety or your freedoms.
This statement was not meant to be an attack so please don't get defensive, just stating that we all like different things and we shouldn't think that someone else shouldn't have something or doesn't need something just because we don't see a use for it. When it comes right down to it none of us needs a rifle, we have them because we want them and we are allowed to own them (for now).
 
NHunter said:
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There is a hunting section to this forum and other sections for bolt guns if looking at a type of firearm offends you.

A mousquet was once the go to firearm for all militaries, mausers were one of the best rifles in both world wars, how many smle were sporterized for hunting use? Those were once on very busy 2 way ranges.
 
mikethebike said:
There is a hunting section to this forum and other sections for bolt guns if looking at a type of firearm offends you.

A mousquet was once the go to firearm for all militaries, mausers were one of the best rifles in both world wars, how many smle were sporterized for hunting use? Those were once on very busy 2 way ranges.
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Yeah I'm picturing the NHunters of yesteryear gathering around the campfire, leaning on their muskets and saying, "Why the hell would someone need a combat lookalike (aka sporterized LE) rifle? This is Canada remember, not the Congo!"

And the hunting section here isn't exactly black-rifle-free anymore so it might not be a safe space for the narrow-minded.
 
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