Fn Fal
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Not true. I was just giving you different examples to make my point. Both Galil AR and a Valmet M76 (for example) in .308 with side folding stocks are superior to a FAL in almost every single aspect.
More accurate, more reliable/dependable, more compact/egronomic, MUCH better sights, SAME range/power, etc..
Thumb fire selector (present on Galil but not Valmet) is a questionable advantage. It's been tested and seen on some Valmet prototypes and it was concluded that the AK-type fire selector was more suitable for winter conditions.
Corpus said:
Valmet or Galil is not a descendent of AK, it IS AK.
SCAR is as related to AR15 as SIG PE90 or FN FNC is to AK.
I dont have anything against FAL at all. Its a fine rifle and has served our country well. Calling it " THE Finest battle rifle ever made" is a little too much.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree
Here's some gun #### to settle the argument
Only the early, early M-14's were selective fire. It was a disengaged option later on. I don't agree with that decision, but "it is what it is" as they say. .308 on full auto is not very controllable, unless someone is trying to kill you; then it becomes a "walk in the park" to control it. LOL!
Still trying to figure out how an FAL with a longer sight radius and adjustable peep sights, has a WORSE sight system than an AK?? The Galil folder is patterned from the FAL folder, and is the only one of the AK family that has a marginal selector - FAL again wins in ergonomics. I'm thinking you should own and fondle a few more rifles, O argumentive one.....
Still trying to figure out how an FAL with a longer sight radius and adjustable peep sights, has a WORSE sight system than an AK?? The Galil folder is patterned from the FAL folder, and is the only one of the AK family that has a marginal selector - FAL again wins in ergonomics. I'm thinking you should own and fondle a few more rifles, O argumentive one.....
I can see that reading comprehension is not one of your strengths.
Read my posts over, and point me to the part where i said that $300 Chinese POS AK had better sights than FAL.
A word of advice: don't go shooting in the "bush" son! I made that mistake a couple of times myself, and I'm still paying into college tuition funds for it! If you have been saddled with a "Valmet" for use in the "bush" then that sounds like a personal problem to me; I would go around admitting it to people.
If you have been saddled with a "Valmet" for use in the "bush" then that sounds like a personal problem to me; I would go around admitting it to people.
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I can see that reading comprehension is not one of your strengths.
Read my posts over, and point me to the part where i said that $300 Chinese POS AK had better sights than FAL.
You didn't - obviously reading is not one of your strengths, nor is basic comprehension. The Valmet and Galil sight covers are not a good long-term, sturdy sight base - and in my experience the garden-variety FAL was a more accurate rifle anyhow.....and also didn't suffer from frame-cracking, as the Galil (in 5.56) did.
i got to say. as long as you train on what you have any weapon is deadly. remember when you were a kid? with a bb gun or a pelet gun. when you shot far it wasn't acurate. you lead the target. meaning left right up or down. when you no your rifle you no your self. crap back in the 50's/60's the mau mau made there own crude pistols and rifles and still managed to put fear in the brits. ak is fine, a true battle rifle. simple. fn is a close 2nd. m14 (and i love it) isn't a good battle rifle. nothing to do with quality like i said i think it is one of the top rifles. but how you have to field strip it and some of the problems that happen. i think the fn or ak is a better battle rifle. befor any one kills me i didn't say they were beter rifles. just think with the fn, all you do is break the weapon. pull the bolt carrier out, release the gas plug, pull out the piston and spring and your done. btw i own 2 m14's. if i could have a fn it would have to be a fnc1a1, then i would own 1 m14.
In your previous post it was quiet clear that you werent talking about Galil or Valmet sights..
There is nothing wrong with the "long term sturdiness" (whatever this means) on these rifles. There is also no such thing as "sight covers" on either rifles.
If you are refering to the fact that the TOP RECEIVER COVER on the AK is not sturdy enough to mount a high precision OPTICAL scope to, then this is a totally different discussion. There are other "proper" ways to mount an optical scope. Iron sights on both AR (as in Galil AR, not AR15) and M76 are better than FAL's.
Also i never heard anything about this frame-cracking that Galils supposedly SUFFER from. 5 min google seatch on "galil frame cracking" did not return a single result. Can you please share your sources?
