Folding stock = Restricted~!!!!!!

I guess reading the laws aren't a job requirement.
CPC is in power, they should be clearing out the hired liberals and replace em.
 
Did the techie quote you a new regulation?
AFAIK nothing in current Firearms Act, Firearms Act Regulations, Criminal Code, Criminal Code Schedules or any other legislation supports that ruling.


G37 said:
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I just got off the phone with a CFC techie in Ottawa... see my last post
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Hi all,

With all these hot 10/22's I'm seeing lately I've decided to take the plunge again...

I just wanted to know what a standard 10/22 with the Butler Creek Folding stock (folded) Overall Length is in order to make some shopping decisions. :)

Thanks in advance.
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There was some gossip originating from some verifiers, saying that
the muzzle device has to be permanently attached (eg pinned)
to the barrel in order to contribute to the OAL.






I don't know if you remember,
but there were also people saying (on this site)
that when they phoned CFC
to inform about a change of the barrel lenght (8" for the Krinker Plinker)
they were asked by the CFC about the type of the stock and
when the CFC was told about the Krinker Plinker stock,
they said the gun would be restricted
even if the folder is pinned (welded) in the open position
because the stock is designed (intended) to be folded.


PS If the above is true, what does CSSA, CPC, Stockwel Day
(and the rest of the minions) have to say about that?
(Sorry, I couldn't resist).
 
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thanks for the clarification on the FH. The M1 story makes sense...I kind of remember that.

I gotta believe that the CFC rep was wrong. The law is actually pretty clear on this....Stupid, useless and a waste of time and money but at least I can understand the wording.
 
G37 said:
Ok... just got off the phone now with some techie at Ottawa... get ready for the SHOCK of the year!!!

Anyone who owns a Folding stock on a 10/22 (or any other firearm) has a Restricted 10/22 regardless of length. Did you get that? Folding Stock on Non-Restricted firearm = Instant restricted firearm.

So... I told her that for decades people have had folding stocks on non-retricted rifles (not just the 10/22)... she chuckles and says "Well... it's up to whoever is interpretting the law at the time, but I am telling you today that the official word is Folding Stock = Restricted firearm."

I don't know if this is an ottawa thing, but it's pretty nutz.
I didn't ask but maybe it is just for aftermarket folding stocks? Because I know the Non-Restricted SIGS come with folding stocks, correct?

Anyway, some craziness for sure.

By the way I was transferred 3 times and on hold for 30+minutes to get this "ruling."
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Any non-restricted with folding stock ? :confused:
Means after adding to my VZ-858 (non restricted by default) folding stock I switched it to restricted ? Wau...... :eek:
 
t-star said:
this flash hider thing throws back years to when the m1 carbine was being defined- the final ruling was that the flash hider DOES NOT contibute to barrel length , and the barrel must one countious unit( ie one piece)
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there is a mix up of two separate issues - barrel length and overall length. I believe its perfectly legal to permanently attach something ( weld) somewhere be it FH or stock butt extension and it would count for OAL. Which means if your folder is a bit short welding FH will fix a problem. Folder does not mean your 1022 automatically becomes restricted.

Barrel length = rifled portion of a barrel. In barrel length FH does not count because it is not rifled, not part of a barrel. In case of M1 Carbines barrel legth must be 18.5" like on any other centrefire rifle. 18" barrels cannot be made 18.5" unless you drill out the bore and shove 18.5" liner in it.
 
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