Found a BX-25!

I was about to bash you guys for being ignant until I checked into it myself.."Special Bulletin for Businesses No. 72" on rcmp website http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
1. Magazines designed or manufactured for both rimfire calibre rifles and handguns
Magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle do not have a regulated capacity. However, magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges.
Example:

Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 rifle and 15-22P pistol chambered for 22LR caliber:
  • the 10 round magazine is unregulated
  • the 25 round magazine is a prohibited device
Pretty lame in my opinion...when did they do this ?did the rcmp do this on their own with no oversight ?the butler creek is the same mag only cheaper..are they going to one day demand all of us to turn our 25 rnd butler creek mags in too ?Last time I checked .22 cal rifles had no mag capacity restrictions..obviously this is just another lame way to f*** with our sport..not impressed in the least...
As far as I'm concerned..if that 25 rnd mag is in my .22 rifle when I'm busted,I'm not breaking any law...and I'll tell that to the judges face...
 
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Mr.S said:
What kind of dope are you guys on ffs ?rimfire .22 caliber has no magazine capacity restrictions bolt action,semi auto,pump..whatever..you got computers look it up..or shall I find it for you...
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Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!:slap:

ALL PISTOLS NO MATTER THE CALIBRE MUST BE RESTRICTED TO 10!

And since the BX-25 is marketed for both the charger(pistol) and rifle 10-22 it is deemed a PISTOL mag.... Really people need to educate themselves! I don't care if you break a paper law, but the police may and at that point so will you!
 
Mr.S said:
What kind of dope are you guys on ffs ?rimfire .22 caliber has no magazine capacity restrictions bolt action,semi auto,pump..whatever..you got computers look it up..or shall I find it for you...
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Don't let knowledge get in your way. Some .22 mags are prohibited. If its marketed to fit a handgun it has to be limited to 10. Otherwise its prohibited. Does it make sense?? No. Is it the law? Yes.

http://canadianblackriflemag.wordpress.com/tag/rcmp/
 
ndb86 said:
Wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!:slap:

ALL PISTOLS NO MATTER THE CALIBRE MUST BE RESTRICTED TO 10!

And since the BX-25 is marketed for both the charger(pistol) and rifle 10-22 it is deemed a PISTOL mag.... Really people need to educate themselves! I don't care if you break a paper law, but the police may and at that point so will you!
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lol...
 
Mr.S said:
As far as I'm concerned..if that 25 rnd mag is in my .22 rifle when I'm busted,I'm not breaking any law...and I'll tell that to the judges face...
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While I agree with your sentiments, a bad law is still a law and in court you wouldn't get vary far.

Mr.S said:
lol..you guys got my post before I edited after digging a little deeper..
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This is the interwebs AND this is CGN. The combination means that when you're wrong, you will be flamed instantly by people who have no lives....


Wait a sec I flamed you.... aww crap.:bangHead:
 
mini_cal said:
I returned the magazine this evening. Told them that he RCMP classified it as a prohibited device. They said that was bollocks since it doesn't say on the magazine itself that it fits the pistol. Just small print on the cardboard insert.

Oh well. No BX-25 for me.
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WOW! I hope for their sake that they don't try to sell it to anyone else. I mean, with this thread being quite public anyone could go into the shop looking for one - even an RCMP officer.

Seriously, I hope for their own sake that they change their tune....

I agree that the law is stupid but, you see, it IS the law!
 
ALBERTA BOY said:
WOW! I hope for their sake that they don't try to sell it to anyone else. I mean, with this thread being quite public anyone could go into the shop looking for one - even an RCMP officer.

Seriously, I hope for their own sake that they change their tune....

I agree that the law is stupid but, you see, it IS the law!
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I have removed the shop's name.

I am in no way bashing the shop. I had a great experience there and the staff was very knowledgable about the firearms I was looking at etc.

I had a discussion about the BX-25 with one of the staff because he too heard the chatter over the magazines being prohib or not.

But there must have been a reason they got through customs. Bought it, called RCMP and was told it was prohib. Went back to return it, which they let me with no problem and told them what the RCMP told me.

They took it into consideration. End of story I suppose. They will be looking into more details themselves.

We even went on the computer and checked for other aftermarket 10/22 25 round mags, such as Promag Archangel mags which is described to fit "10/22's and all variants" which is their clever way of not explcitly saying it is compatible with the 10/22 pistol.

The only issue is Ruger decided to be very detailed and listed the pistol on compatible magazines.
 
Customs could care less. They don't generally know the details of firearms regs, just the basics. They are probably completely unaware of the BX 25 being prohib.
 
juancarlos said:
Customs could care less. They don't generally know the details of firearms regs, just the basics. They are probably completely unaware of the BX 25 being prohib.
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funny you say that , a friend of mine just got one from Brownell's for $22 , went through customs , package was opened and resealed with yellow tape and a note saying the mag and a screw were restricted items and they couldn't be resold but could be kept for personal use ....
 
eh class said:
funny you say that , a friend of mine just got one from Brownell's for $22 , went through customs , package was opened and resealed with yellow tape and a note saying the mag and a screw were restricted items and they couldn't be resold but could be kept for personal use ....
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Case in point, and they gave your friend bad info to boot.
 
How are these any different from the Steel Lips and Hot Lips Butler Creek mags? Wouldn't they work is Charger's too? There are tons of them around.
 
schmidt64 said:
How are these any different from the Steel Lips and Hot Lips Butler Creek mags? Wouldn't they work is Charger's too? There are tons of them around.
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f:P:

Did you even read the thread?

On the previous page.......

Mr.S said:
I was about to bash you guys for being ignant until I checked into it myself.."Special Bulletin for Businesses No. 72" on rcmp website http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
1. Magazines designed or manufactured for both rimfire calibre rifles and handguns
Magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a rifle do not have a regulated capacity. However, magazines designed to contain rimfire cartridges and designed or manufactured for use in a semiautomatic handgun are limited to 10 cartridges. Magazines designed or manufactured for use in both rifles and semiautomatic handguns are subject to the handgun limit of 10 cartridges.
Example:

Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 rifle and 15-22P pistol chambered for 22LR caliber:
  • the 10 round magazine is unregulated
  • the 25 round magazine is a prohibited device
Pretty lame in my opinion...when did they do this ?did the rcmp do this on their own with no oversight ?the butler creek is the same mag only cheaper..are they going to one day demand all of us to turn our 25 rnd butler creek mags in too ?Last time I checked .22 cal rifles had no mag capacity restrictions..obviously this is just another lame way to f*** with our sport..not impressed in the least...
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schmidt64 said:
How are these any different from the Steel Lips and Hot Lips Butler Creek mags? Wouldn't they work is Charger's too? There are tons of them around.
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Ruger really dropped the ball when they printed on the packaging that the BX-25 can be used for the Charger. This gets interpreted as: the BX-25 was designed for both rifle and pistol, therefore the limit is 10 rounds, therefore it's prohibited in 25 round form. Had they designed it strictly for the rifle, like Butler Creek, Black Dog, and everyone else, everything would have been fine.

IMO the Butler Creeks are just tolerable with the right ammo, and the steel lips are less prone to FTF than the plastic hotlips from those guys. The general consensus is that the best mags for the 10/22 besides the prohibited BX-25 are the T125's from Tactical Inc. (but do your own research, your mileage may vary). There are 3 versions (polymer, polymer and aluminum, the last is pricey) and they all have two adjusting screws to get a perfect alignment -- thus no mag-sourced FTF's.
 
mlehtovaara said:
f:P:

Did you even read the thread?

On the previous page.......
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I did read it and know what I said. The Ruger BX-25's and the Butler Creek mags are the same thing and will work in both the 10/22's and Charger's, correct? I was wondering why they are having an issue with the Ruger version all of a sudden when the BC mags have been out for years and are the same thing.
 
the marketing dude. It says on the Ruger package that they are able to work in a pistol, therefore it is now classified as a pistol mag. BC doesn't say it can be used in a pistol.
 
Because Ruger advertised the the BX-25 as compatible(think designed) for the the Charger. Therefore according to the RCMP's twisted minds prohib. Doesn't make sense but its the law.
 
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