We see that feeling of entitlement often. My father tells me how life “really is” from his chair collecting OAS while I try to feed my kids. I’m 50 with a lifetime of solid decisions behind me. It’s sad, but in 15 years they will all be gone.
Freaking rednecked old timers
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We see that feeling of entitlement often. My father tells me how life “really is” from his chair collecting OAS while I try to feed my kids. I’m 50 with a lifetime of solid decisions behind me. It’s sad, but in 15 years they will all be gone.
Oddly enough, most complaints/suggestions at the ranges that I belong to, come from people that never volunteer for any work parties or to serve on the executive. And if they are asked to help implement their suggestions, they are not willing to participate.
And that's why we have to respect our elders. We'll all be in their spot one day. Way I see it, they put in their time in, built this country up and get a pass. Try and learn from the old timers. One day, all their experience and knowledge will be lost to history.
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But they tell us to respect our elders, but then they dont give anyone younger any respect. It goes both ways, can't be a prick, then expect respect.. Like I said, I got told by an older gentleman that I could not be a vet. Well I earned my Veteran status. Sure I learn from them, but I don't let them walk over me because they have a entitlement sense. Now they're not all like that, as the bullseye shooters, helped me big time when I first started shooting over 20 years ago.
Oh and I voulenteer for work parties and was asked of I wanted to be in charge of maintenance exc, but I just do stuff because I want to, not to have a title.
Respect is earned not just given as a vet you should know that and being a young one doesn't get you any points at a shooting club which clearly you think it should it seems from your posts but I maybe wrong ( since I think this is the 3rd or 4th time it was shared ) not them with the sense of entitlement from what you have said so far.
It is really simple basically, the longer you live or shoot , the more experience you attain. Most old shooters have forgotten, or think little of, many things that younger people haven’t even thought of or done … yet. A new young club member is a text book case and must earn their tail feathers before they start quacking and yes I was one of the club directors for some years so seen a lot of this with new members
The worst would be the legendary local duck hunters who everyone knew that would break 4 or 5 out of 25 and blame everything eventually leave and never come back and say they were not treated with the respect they deserved. Sorry dude but your shooting sucked and members were just trying to help with their comments
Military could go either way from what I have seen the majority some of the most polite and helpful and respectful new members open to suggestions we had or a percentage who think they know everything there is to know about guns and shooting and above our club rules or advice from sr shooters
Yep my useless 2 cents from one of those old hated club guys that cried that contagious word pull first in 1965 and shot at must be close to 1/2 a million targets in my life and even broke 100,000 of them LOL and seen many types of people at the clubs I shot and never did I see skin color being an issue at any of them
Take care and my rant for today
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Respect is earned not just given as a vet you should know that and being a young one doesn't get you any points at a shooting club which clearly you think it should it seems from your posts but I maybe wrong ( since I think this is the 3rd or 4th time it was shared ) not them with the sense of entitlement from what you have said so far.
It is really simple basically, the longer you live or shoot , the more experience you attain. Most old shooters have forgotten, or think little of, many things that younger people haven’t even thought of or done … yet. A new young club member is a text book case and must earn their tail feathers before they start quacking and yes I was one of the club directors for some years so seen a lot of this with new members
The worst would be the legendary local duck hunters who everyone knew that would break 4 or 5 out of 25 and blame everything eventually leave and never come back and say they were not treated with the respect they deserved. Sorry dude but your shooting sucked and members were just trying to help with their comments
Military could go either way from what I have seen the majority some of the most polite and helpful and respectful new members open to suggestions we had or a percentage who think they know everything there is to know about guns and shooting and above our club rules or advice from sr shooters
Yep my useless 2 cents from one of those old hated club guys that cried that contagious word pull first in 1965 and shot at must be close to 1/2 a million targets in my life and even broke 100,000 of them LOL and seen many types of people at the clubs I shot and never did I see skin color being an issue at any of them
Take care and my rant for today
I wasnt using my vet status at the club for respect, or points. It was a delivery driver for the local hardware store, dropping off lumber and seen my plates. Quite disrespect to tell someone they cannot be a vet because they are young. They got the mentality that you need to be 60 plus to be a vet.
My rant had nothing to do with shooting or the club. But a observation of being a younger person in a retirement town. That they dont respect anyone younger and being an ass and expect respect.
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Isn't that the truth!
I've had countless people approach me and suggest that the club do this or that and when I say fine, when will you be here to help set that up they suddenly get lock jaw!
It is hard for one to fully understand the details from a post and just how one man took it since we were talking about clubs
Cheers
It doesn't seem to matter which club it is, most of the work is done by a handful of people and someone is always unhappy with how the club is run. We had a couple of guys show up at a range maintenance day, and they were upset that they couldn't shoot. They were informed that the maintenance day was posted on the club schedule for the past month, but as long as they were here, they were welcome to help out. The reply was that they didn't have the time to help , even though they had time to shoot.
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This in a nutshell, I’ve noticed the same in the last 6 years that I’ve been on the board and volunteering my time at our range.
The attitude from the old guard did a 180 the year I had a day off prior to a range cleanup, I figured I’d get a head start and brushed out a bunch of the shooting bays so it would be less work for everyone else on the weekend. There were a lot of smiles and thank you’s the next day and we were able to get things tidy by half day.
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I'd love to have a truck, as there are stuff I'd like to do for the club. But I only have a car. So dont like putting my whipper in the back of it. But I was thinking of proposing purchasing a whipper/bush saw for the club, to store there.
To the OP...what an embarrassing post, and representative of the entire "me first" mentality of so many people today, incessantly whining about their feelings being hurt.
I can tell everyone that this guy is NOT representative of the visible minority gun club experience.
I am a visible minority guy, belong to a very rural club where I am the probably the only visible minority there - and you know what? IT DOESN'T MATTER. I DON'T CARE You know why? Because unlike many people who just are looking for a reason to complain, many people who seem to relish in victimhood, and many people who ironically despite railing about the injustices of racism, name calling, and rounding up people by stereotypical groups, instead of viewing everyone as individuals, I go to my range and enjoy shooting but moreso enjoy the camaraderie of the fellas there, almost all of whom are older than me. And guess what - we all are target shooters and hate the Liberals. I don't see them as anything other than fellow shooters with whom I have much in common in terms of interests and politics. Last time I was at my range, a fellow range member came out of the clubhouse to greet me as he saw my car roll in and told me he brought a military surplus rifle for me to try. We had a hoot shooting it and I was very appreciative of his kindness. I have found everyone else at my club to be wonderful decent folks.
Listen - I grew up in an era in the 1970s and 80s where there was indeed real racism - like being attacked for how you look, being spat on in public, and all the commensurate name calling. It's not like these days where it's just the perception of having one's feelings hurt and being offended. And worse, just like some groups, they seem to be hellbent on looking for racism everywhere, even when it is not there. It is a very unhealthy mentality to live by day to day.
Instead, I would suggest a few things - instead of seeing people as different than you, even if they may be (racially, age-wise, rural/urban, social-economically, religiously, etc.), just get to know them as people. Don't shrink into a shell thinking that the whole world is out to get you and that you are discriminated against. The fact that you and the others have not returned shows just how little fortitude you have. And I would dare say, shows the same ignorance you are ascribing to others.
Even if what you said were indeed true, the remedy is not to cower, and avoid places or people. Because if you do, you are making it glaringly obvious the differences between "you" and "them". And that just perpetuates in your mind the divisions.
Something to keep in mind when joining a club - you are subject to the club rules, of which safety rules are of paramount importance. Don't dismiss any advice that is given to you - that is also indicative of people nowadays who just refuse to listen to others' advice and wisdom who have come before them. Exercise some humility and be open that you may learn something from others.
Adopt a different mentality - recognize that not everyone has the opportunity to be in a gun club with like minded people. Once you adopt that mentality you will find that you won't have to do so much to fit in - you already will by virtue that you are showing commonalities in interests as fellow gun owners.
It always reminds me of jazz musician Daryl Davis. An older black man and what is interesting about him is his developed friendships with people who otherwise society would have said he has nothing in common with - he has befriended many KKK and white supremacist members, instead of avoiding them, got to know them as people and at last count over 250 high ranking members of these organizations have renounced their ties to racist groups. Mr. Davis did not go out and intend to convert people - he just saw people as people and saw individuals as individuals. Over time, these people who would have otherwise hated him, saw him the same way, to the point where one of these fellows had Davis walk his daughter down the aisle when she got married.
Dismissing people outright without even taking the time to get to know them is robbing yourself of some rich friendships that can develop with people with whom you may otherwise think you have nothing in common.
I can tell everyone that this guy is NOT representative of the visible minority gun club experience.
I am a visible minority guy, belong to a very rural club where I am the probably the only visible minority there - and you know what? IT DOESN'T MATTER. I DON'T CARE You know why? Because unlike many people who just are looking for a reason to complain, many people who seem to relish in victimhood, and many people who ironically despite railing about the injustices of racism, name calling, and rounding up people by stereotypical groups, instead of viewing everyone as individuals, I go to my range and enjoy shooting but moreso enjoy the camaraderie of the fellas there, almost all of whom are older than me. And guess what - we all are target shooters and hate the Liberals. I don't see them as anything other than fellow shooters with whom I have much in common in terms of interests and politics. Last time I was at my range, a fellow range member came out of the clubhouse to greet me as he saw my car roll in and told me he brought a military surplus rifle for me to try. We had a hoot shooting it and I was very appreciative of his kindness. I have found everyone else at my club to be wonderful decent folks.
Listen - I grew up in an era in the 1970s and 80s where there was indeed real racism - like being attacked for how you look, being spat on in public, and all the commensurate name calling. It's not like these days where it's just the perception of having one's feelings hurt and being offended. And worse, just like some groups, they seem to be hellbent on looking for racism everywhere, even when it is not there. It is a very unhealthy mentality to live by day to day.
Instead, I would suggest a few things - instead of seeing people as different than you, even if they may be (racially, age-wise, rural/urban, social-economically, religiously, etc.), just get to know them as people. Don't shrink into a shell thinking that the whole world is out to get you and that you are discriminated against. The fact that you and the others have not returned shows just how little fortitude you have. And I would dare say, shows the same ignorance you are ascribing to others.
Even if what you said were indeed true, the remedy is not to cower, and avoid places or people. Because if you do, you are making it glaringly obvious the differences between "you" and "them". And that just perpetuates in your mind the divisions.
Something to keep in mind when joining a club - you are subject to the club rules, of which safety rules are of paramount importance. Don't dismiss any advice that is given to you - that is also indicative of people nowadays who just refuse to listen to others' advice and wisdom who have come before them. Exercise some humility and be open that you may learn something from others.
Adopt a different mentality - recognize that not everyone has the opportunity to be in a gun club with like minded people. Once you adopt that mentality you will find that you won't have to do so much to fit in - you already will by virtue that you are showing commonalities in interests as fellow gun owners.
It always reminds me of jazz musician Daryl Davis. An older black man and what is interesting about him is his developed friendships with people who otherwise society would have said he has nothing in common with - he has befriended many KKK and white supremacist members, instead of avoiding them, got to know them as people and at last count over 250 high ranking members of these organizations have renounced their ties to racist groups. Mr. Davis did not go out and intend to convert people - he just saw people as people and saw individuals as individuals. Over time, these people who would have otherwise hated him, saw him the same way, to the point where one of these fellows had Davis walk his daughter down the aisle when she got married.
Dismissing people outright without even taking the time to get to know them is robbing yourself of some rich friendships that can develop with people with whom you may otherwise think you have nothing in common.
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That is a excellent post!
I look upon the OP as a trolling post with a lot of sucker bait on the hook.
Don't you people believe post's like the OP are being used to ban ALL gun's in Canada? Who need's an AR 15? And a lot of you will say they should be banned.
But do you really need to own that DT-11, Krieghoff, or Cooey single shot?
Now let us put racism into the gun banning algorithm.
Well, boys and girl's, you are now a gun loving, bigot AND a racist.
The term racist will quickly be made into "white supremist' by the likes of the OP.
Using the term "old man" and "red neck" shows the OP to be very intellectually inferior in her/his attempts to deface gun owner's. One of my hobbie's is observing their methodology.
What surprises me is how many post's bit into the sucker bait.
Even shotgun owner's are on the list for gun confiscation, and you can see by the OP how it is and will be used.
Don't you people believe post's like the OP are being used to ban ALL gun's in Canada? Who need's an AR 15? And a lot of you will say they should be banned.
But do you really need to own that DT-11, Krieghoff, or Cooey single shot?
Now let us put racism into the gun banning algorithm.
Well, boys and girl's, you are now a gun loving, bigot AND a racist.
The term racist will quickly be made into "white supremist' by the likes of the OP.
Using the term "old man" and "red neck" shows the OP to be very intellectually inferior in her/his attempts to deface gun owner's. One of my hobbie's is observing their methodology.
What surprises me is how many post's bit into the sucker bait.
Even shotgun owner's are on the list for gun confiscation, and you can see by the OP how it is and will be used.
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Agree 100%
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F that it's a term of endearment. Much like most labels it's used wrong and out of context.
I remember the Edmonton gun club in 70's and 80's,. Sherwood Park. A sort of Irish type of community. If you know what I mean. Irish and dogs stuff.
Rollie Miles, Johnnie Bright and other regular black folks used to be in the trap squad's. A lot of business was carried out at that old Edmonton gun club.
Johnnie Bright had a two 26 entrance fee at his wake. AND it had to be expensive stuff.
Just saying.
Geeze, those old Boomers again! Seems only yesterday they were a bunch of young punks. I wonder if that trend will continue?
As for the OP, I'd bet he failed a skin thickness test not a skin colour test. Trouble is he probably can't tell them apart.
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Yesterday a young fellow came wandering over to the skeet field just as we started a round. He was carrying a short barreled pump gun, and had never shot any kind of clay/moving targets, but wanted to try skeet. We had to remind him to keep the action open a few times, and had to remind him that he needed to be on the station pad to load the gun, and to only load two rounds, but other than that it went very well. He only broke a few targets, but he appeared to have fun. And he was oriental, and I very much doubt that he felt that anyone cared.
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