Friend Buying Guns For Me

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I'm new to firearms and there's something I'm eyeing, but I'm not sure if it'll still be there by the time I get my PAL. I'm wondering if there's any issues legally if my friend buys the gun for me and, once I get my PAL, I buy it from him.

Thanks for any help!
 
Perfectly legal as long as you don't take possession of the gun until your PAL is recieved.

Don't mention your plan to the store , the sales guy might not believe your friend will retain care, control and possession of it until your PAL arrives....he may think yiur friend is just goingvto hand it over to you in the parking lot.

That would be a straw purchase.

Shoot safe.

Enjoy your new gun.
 
Any transfer must be pre-approved by the Canadian Firearms Program, who will issue a reference number. The retailer is obligated to keep both reference number and all other transfer details for at least twenty years. Any transfer to your friend will be documented in this manner. When the time comes for your friend to transfer to you the firearm(s), any transfer must be pre-approved by the Canadian Firearms Program, who will issue a reference number. I would suggest that your friend should take great care to retain all of this documentation (for his own records), because someday he might require it (to help defend himself against a criminal charge of transfer without authority, or a criminal charge of weapons trafficking).
 
Your friend would have to buy it as if he buying it. ( go thru the pal check ) store it in his poessission till you get your PAL. Then when you get the PAL transfer it to you.

Like when I was 17 I bought a Springfield M1A 308. I gave dad the money, he bought it, registered it ( long gun registry time ) and kept it till I got my PAL.
 
Explain the situation to the store, pay for it, have them hold it until your PAL comes through.
 
Wendell said:
Any transfer must be pre-approved by the Canadian Firearms Program, who will issue a reference number. The retailer is obligated to keep both reference number and all other transfer details for at least twenty years. Any transfer to your friend will be documented in this manner. When the time comes for your friend to transfer to you the firearm(s), any transfer must be pre-approved by the Canadian Firearms Program, who will issue a reference number. I would suggest that your friend should take great care to retain all of this documentation (for his own records), because someday he might require it (to help defend himself against a criminal charge of transfer without authority, or a criminal charge of weapons trafficking).
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Nope, private sales require no records keeping.
I delete ALL texts, emails and other messages as soon as the buyer has recieved his item.

I would never do business with someone who keeps records.

As sellers we are obligated to follow all current rules not make up new ones.

Besides which there is nothing in the current PAL check system that indicates make modelnor other identifying information about why the PAL check is being done
 
FatCatsDad said:
Nope, private sales require no records keeping. I delete ALL texts, emails and other messages as soon as the buyer has recieved his item. I would never do business with someone who keeps records. As sellers we are obligated to follow all current rules not make up new ones.
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Someday, you'll be famous. We'll all read about you in the papers.

Jacob Appelbaum: To Protect And Infect, Part 2, The Militarization of the Internet
 
Wendell said:
Someday, you'll be famous. We'll all read about you in the papers.
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There is zero requirement for private buyers or sellers to keep records of any of this stuff- you don't have to keep records of what the reference number was, who the reference number was issued for, what may or may not have changed hands. Nothing.

Stores have to keep records for 20 years but private individuals have no such requirements.
 
...How could what you're describing possibly be an issue? Your licensed friend buying a firearm is fine. Him selling a firearm to you when you have a license is fine. The only thing that would not be fine is if you're planning on doing what we're all thinking you're planning on doing, which is him buying the gun and giving it to you before you have a license. It should be very obvious that you can't do that if you're concerned with stuff like the law. You can't legally possess a firearm without a PAL.
 
Wendell said:
Any transfer must be pre-approved by the Canadian Firearms Program, who will issue a reference number. The retailer is obligated to keep both reference number and all other transfer details for at least twenty years. Any transfer to your friend will be documented in this manner. When the time comes for your friend to transfer to you the firearm(s), any transfer must be pre-approved by the Canadian Firearms Program, who will issue a reference number. I would suggest that your friend should take great care to retain all of this documentation (for his own records), because someday he might require it (to help defend himself against a criminal charge of transfer without authority, or a criminal charge of weapons trafficking).
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Wendell has made it onto the "Never sell or buy from" list.
 
Suther said:
There is zero requirement for private buyers or sellers to keep records of any of this stuff- you don't have to keep records of what the reference number was, who the reference number was issued for, what may or may not have changed hands. Nothing.

Stores have to keep records for 20 years but private individuals have no such requirements.
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Wendell, who follows every regulation to the letter and beyond says that's wrong....:D
 
DT741 said:
Disposable evil plastic ones or the ones that start composting before your first sip ?
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Neither.
As a farm boy, I can tell you that it is the dry stalks of wheat, oats, or barley being referenced.
The singular actually means plural in this case, as you would not buy just one wheat stalk but a great many in a straw purchase.
 
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Wendell said:
Someday, you'll be famous. We'll all read about you in the papers.

Jacob Appelbaum: To Protect And Infect, Part 2, The Militarization of the Internet
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You have almost 16000 posts made on this site and joined in 2007.

How can you be so clueless as to the current rules and regs regarding a simple NR gun transfer ?

Simply unbelievable.
 
ok, so I shouldn't take any records of the transfer and I should remove all identifying markings from the straw. I think I've figured out this gun thing now
 
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