Frontier's new Imperial Defense AR's

According to the North Silva Dealer Catalogue it stated up to 80% parts compatibility with other AR-15 rifles in the literature provided to dealers at North Silvas recent supplier Day they held.
Do not know what they mean by up to 80% but take the info eor what it is worth.
 
According to the North Silva Dealer Catalogue it stated up to 80% parts compatibility with other AR-15 rifles in the literature provided to dealers at North Silvas recent supplier Day they held.
Do not know what they mean by up to 80% but take the info eor what it is worth.

80% that doesn't even make any sense. Parts should be 100% interchangeable.

Saw a thread on these a couple of months back on arfcom, didn't look too bad.

Hope the barrels are hammer forged like that post said, that would be fantastic. Wonder what steel they use, 4140, 4150?

$1650 doesn't sound too bad, not the way things are going these days.

ETA: Well look at that, the old thread was right here on gunnutz, kudos to whoever dug it up.
 
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Yeah, but you can find allot of info on the Sabre Defence AR's such as the fact that the uppers and lowers are matched at the factory in the UK to get a better fit over milspec. U.S. stuff, so you should expect a higher price because of obvious QC improvements..Personally I'd spend a couple hundred more on a quality UK built (anything) over a generic poorly fit (anything) with the same purpose...the exact reason I can't see the value in Cheap Walmart crap.

I second this, for this price you'd might as well buy a new Sabre Defence XR-15 and have a rifle that is put together "the best of the AR's". When spending that kind of money, don't cheap out. Buy something with a recognizable name from one of the major AR builders.
 
Yes, noticed that after I posted. However, I then looked at the rifle and it says the exact same thing, 80% compatible. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

Yah I just saw that on their website with the M16A3. I figured it'd be selector and such, but I apparently not... I guess we'll see soon enough.
 
If they have the permits they say they have from the British government, they're legitimate, importing explosives in the UK is taken quite seriously.
 
I haven't heard word on just uppers coming in, unless one of the dealers splits them up. I have an email into IDS in regards to parts compatibility. Will update...
 
10.5" barrel in a factory gun? Made in Europe no less....I'm so in for one in the new year!

The US can take their stupid ITAR rules and cram them where the sun don't shine...Its only their companies who lose out on sales when we are forced to source our goodies from China, Israel, and the UK.
 
The stole pictures from Colt's old website - and airbrushed the US SOPMOD posters, not to mention the Training section of their website...


I would be curious on who's TDP they designed these guns - a $1650 AR that does not run is $1650 you could have put towards a Colt or LMT (or better yet KAC)
 
All I can find out is that Imperial Defence Services is more or less a small arms broker/dealer, run by a person named Mick Ranger. Mick Ranger was pretty "famous" because he was the guy who sold the "infamous" AK that led to the UK semi ban. It looks like they had been in the "arms" business for a long time as "middleman", who runs around trying to buy stuff and sell stuff. Their headquarter is described as a white farm house in Essex.

They don't seem to make stuff themselves - they outsource production to someone else, or somehow locate them. Their 1911 are made in Vietnam that's one thing I found out. I also think they supplied the US dealers with magazines for the SA80 which were released into the US market, after UK mod bought into the HK mags. ( I guess they bought them off UK MOD, swap out the magzine plates and sold them to US importer) An article search also indicated that they attempted to purchase 150,000 magazines ( I guess that will be Galil's|) off Columbia at one point but failed.
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