Full length vs. Neck sizing for hunting

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Ok I'm looking into neck sizing my brass and was wondering if there are any pros and cons in hunting scenarios. Full length sized brass would be a little looser in the chamber. Is there a possibility that the tighter neck sized brass could have feed issues?

I'm the only person I know shooting my caliber so I will not be asked to share so the brass only fitting my chamber issue is a non issue.

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Neck sizing only works for so many reloads. Alot of factors depend on how many times you can get away with it.

In the field you need reliable feeding. The best way to guarantee max reliability is to full length bump your shoulders back .002"

Spending $ on a hunting trip and having ammo that will not chamber would suck balls.
 
Just full length size it. There’s been enough testing and groups posted showing the gains of neck sizing to be negligible. I’ll neck size after full length size to get a consistent neck tension, but that’s about it. It’s not like you’re trying to print quarter minute groups.
 
Hunting rounds require two things.
Full length resizing and make sure your rounds chamber.
Each and every one.

I lost a moose because of my neck sizing reloads.
Sure won't do that again.
 
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I would full length size.

If I had a rifle in which I had to use neck sized brass (like my 303Brit) I would run all the rounds through the mag and chamber to make sure they all fed and chambered ok.

Learned this lesson the hard way.
 
Might sound anal but any reloaded ammo I'm taking hunting gets checked in the rifle before hand. Peace of mind.
 
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A Redding body die (bump shoulder 0.002"), a Lee collet die, and a Lee factory crimp die will give you bench rest quality in a hunting handload.

Suggest only a light crimp, just enough to keep bullet from moving upon recoil or handling.

Many, many thousands of rounds loaded and fired this way without any difficulties.
 
I have hunted with NK sized ammo, no problems. I always chamber my rounds before a trip, regardless

I will typically hunt with ammo now that has a .002" shoulder bump. Just sized some 280 Ackley this morning. Chambered a few neck sized only casings which were easy enough to close the bolt on. Resized one of the tighter ones with my Redding body die, chambered it again and the bolt closed like butter. Easy decision to size the batch in the body die!
 
In 1973 after I got out of the Air Force I bought a Remington 760 Gamemaster in .270 Winchester and a Lee loader that only neck sizes. The second time I reloaded my Remington cases, the cases would not eject until the cases cooled off. This was about 30 seconds after firing them and that night I bought my Rockchucker press and RCBS full length dies.

As a example with a semi-auto the resized case body should be .003 to .005 smaller in diameter than its fired diameter. This allows the fired case to spring back from the chamber walls and extract reliably.

On a bolt action lifting the bolt handle is called primary extraction and should break the case free of the chamber walls and move the case back slightly. The problem is the more a neck sized only case is fired the more the case will conform to the chambers dimensions.

Bottom line any animal that can eat you, gore you or stomp you to death, then your ammunition should be full length resized.

Below both Erik Cortina and Kevin Thomas shoot for Team Lapua USA and before this Kevin Thomas worked in the Sierra ballistic test lab. My favourite part of Kevin Thomas post is the quote of the late Jim Hull of the Sierra Ballistic Test Lab. "The cartridge should fit the chamber like a rat turd in a violin case".


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Neck sizing is OK for hunting but just make sure you chamber each round as a check before you head out. :)
 
Most hunters would be better off forgetting everything they ever heard about neck sizing cases.

Murphy is a soul-less bastard; and if you open the door the slightest crack to something that can go wrong, it will go wrong. It will also be at the worst possible time.
 
Most hunters would be better off forgetting everything they ever heard about neck sizing cases.

Murphy is a soul-less bastard; and if you open the door the slightest crack to something that can go wrong, it will go wrong. It will also be at the worst possible time.

^^This.

Plus, imagine the difference between neck sizing and full length sizing is a full MOA (done properly it's much less than that). If you shoot a moose at 100 yards, that MOA makes the difference between the right or the left ventricule of the heart. The moose won't notice if you don't tell it.
 
It is always wise to FL resize your brass for hunting loads. As has been stated, Murphy is always waiting
for an opportunity to screw you around, and you may be certain he will pick the worst possible time as well.
Even running the neck-sized rounds through before you go hunting will not guarantee you can chamber
that round later when a tiny bit of contamination enters the chamber inadvertently. Full length is the way
to go. Dave.
 
It is always wise to FL resize your brass for hunting loads. As has been stated, Murphy is always waiting
for an opportunity to screw you around, and you may be certain he will pick the worst possible time as well.
Even running the neck-sized rounds through before you go hunting will not guarantee you can chamber
that round later when a tiny bit of contamination enters the chamber inadvertently. Full length is the way
to go. Dave.


I have a 30-06 with a chamber right on maximum and it will not shoot any full length resized ammo well enough to trust on a hunt. However, it will shoot partially resized brass reloads very well. I was going to take the barrel off and set back the tenon one thread and recut the chamber. I didn't do that because the neck diameter of the original chamber was also oversize and I would have had to trim to much from this particular barrel for my safety comfort zone. It's a pencil thin barrel on a European action and it shoots 150 grain bullets very well on a very light system.

I size down the neck and bump back the shoulder about .002in. This ammo has never failed to feed and chamber in over 25 years of use. Its taken a lot of Deer, a few Bears and at least one Moose in that time.

Now, I don't shoot this rifle, other than to make sure it's still holding zero, which it does consistently, with very little maintenance, other than cleaning every fall after the season is over. I LEND this rifle to new shooters and hunters. Usually they're younger or women of lighter stature. The weight of the rifle is important in such cases. The barrel has been ported to keep recoil manageable.

Dave, I'm not disagreeing with you at all. If something can go wrong, it will. Even with experienced shooters.

All I'm saying is that "IF" your particular rifle won't shoot full length sized cases with acceptable hunting accuracy you have to size the cases to what it will shoot well.

I'm sure, with all of your experience, you've picked up rifles with chambers right on maximum spec and right on minimum spec(usually holy grails). They can shoot/chamber well with properly sized ammo.

I also have a Winchester Mod 70 short action, chambered in 308Win. It has a minimum spec chamber. I actually have to turn down the necks a couple of thousandths to make sure it chambers the cartridges reliably. This is a factory sporter, not a match rifle with a match chamber. I'm actually surprised this rifle made it out of the factory.

The chamber will only accept some factory ammo and that depends on individual lots. It won't accept any surplus ammo I've tried.

Whatever it accepts, it shoots incredibly well. Everything from 125grain to 165 grain bullets of any design under 1 moa and with some half that. NO, it's not for sale.

The fellow I traded it from wanted a 30-06 in similar condition that shot factory ammo acceptably for hunting out to 300 yards. He didn't hand load and wasn't the least bit interested in starting. In his opinion there was something wrong with the 308Win cartridge because he was having chambering issues with his rifle, so he had to switch to the 30-06. Trade done and we're both very happy.
 
BH, you have what is known as an aberration in that long chamber, but you are correct in your observations.
Once in a while, there is an exception to the rule, and then you have to act accordingly.
That is where an experienced reloader can adjust to the specific rifle. Partial sizing does work for your 30-06,
and that is the best way to make it work. ;) Dave.
 
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