g36 stock for 10/22 by archangel

As I recall my son has an old airsoft g36 case kicking arouign the basement. I have a spare reciever and barrel left over from my Dlask Tacticool build. Me thinks I feel a frankenstock coming on. Seen a guy do it with a p90 but that wouldn't go up here do to it being bullpup. This on the other hand should keep me busy for a few nights anyway.

Time to get to work... bwuaa ha ha ha ha...:D
 
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Can someone help me by posting pics of the orig G36 with various barrel lengths so I can get some feedback on profiles and lengths desired.

My goal is to make 10/22 barrels that will mimic the real thing - or at least what you see forend forward. Threading for muzzle attachments are a given but I can also do fluting.

So a fluted heavy shorty is possible. Or, a M4 type profile with grenade launcher notch - or whatever the orig has/had. I am unfamiliar with this rig.

Swamped with holidays and year end stuff so please let me see some pics and info so we can get new profiles entered into the CNC machine.

These barrels will be from McGowen so they will also be a lapped match grade pipe. Prices will be great.

Jerry
 
mysticplayer said:
Can someone help me by posting pics of the orig G36 with various barrel lengths so I can get some feedback on profiles and lengths desired.

My goal is to make 10/22 barrels that will mimic the real thing - or at least what you see forend forward. Threading for muzzle attachments are a given but I can also do fluting.

So a fluted heavy shorty is possible. Or, a M4 type profile with grenade launcher notch - or whatever the orig has/had. I am unfamiliar with this rig.

Swamped with holidays and year end stuff so please let me see some pics and info so we can get new profiles entered into the CNC machine.

These barrels will be from McGowen so they will also be a lapped match grade pipe. Prices will be great.

Jerry
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M4 type profile is key - that would have looked killed on my SR22, but with the 12.5" OAL it doesn't matter so much anyway since the barrel is hidden up to the flash hider
 
mysticplayer said:
Can someone help me by posting pics of the orig G36 with various barrel lengths so I can get some feedback on profiles and lengths desired.
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Jerry,

A google search turned up this:

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I don't know what the specs are on the various models, though. Keep in mind that the Archangel version is probably not 100% scale, anyway, so whatever barrels you get in will need to be adjusted for the 10/22 receiver position and stock size.

Personally, I want a K or C model replica.


Edit: Wikipedia gives barrel lengths for some of the models, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_and_Koch_G36

If the stock actually folds on the Archangel version we will have a problem, as both the K and C models are less than 26" when folded.

Mark
 
Thanks Mark, The pics showed that the stock folded and if so, that will limit the barrel right now.

My guess is that the G 36 and E model has a 14.5/16" type barrel. The K is your 11" or thereabouts.

Absolutely correct about the scaling of the stock so we will need to know these things to firm up the lengths

1) Does the stock fold?
2) What LOOK are we after? As long as the profile stays the same, length really doesn't matter to McGowen

So right now, my gut feeling is that we go with a straight barrel skipping that bulge/bayonet thing with a nice diameter to mate up to a typical A2 flashhider. That will then match up with all the various AR kit.

Min length will be determined by the stock length and I will not offer a combo that is under Cdn legal limits.

Should be some interesting new toys in 2011..

Jerry
 
Jerry,
we can also permanently pin the folding stock in order to get the G36c look we all want.
I know I would not want a long barrel if I was to get that stock.
It also looks from the picture that there is 4 slots cut up front, which means G36k clones but no G36c. Hopefully there will be a G36c stock.
 
mysticplayer said:
My guess is that the G 36 and E model has a 14.5/16" type barrel. The K is your 11" or thereabouts.
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According to the wiki page I posted, the E model barrel is 18.9", the K is 12.5" and the C is 9". Overall lengths are 39.3" for the E, 33.9" for the K and 28.3" for the C, all with the stock extended.

I would be happy with a straight barrel threaded for a standard flash hider.

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we can also permanently pin the folding stock in order to get the G36c look we all want.
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+1 on pinning the stock to keep the length over 26". I would rather have the fixed stock and a short barrel than the folding stock and longer barrel.

Mark
 
Well, by pinning the stock, the K version sure looking ###y. That would be a no brainer barrel to produce. The scale of the stock looks pretty close to orig so 12ish" barrel could be perfect.

Looks like K forend with C sight rail.

We are discussing an M4 'ish profile for the Carbine/AR style kit. Will do some measuring over the holidays.

Jerry
 
looking at the stock and knowing measurements from my 18.5" carbine, I believe it would be real close to 26" w/ 18.5" Bbl and folded stock. Jerry, could you machine a FH into the OAL of your barrels?
 
I sure do hope something works out with these, I will haul ass to Bass Pro and get me a 10/22 I've never been fully motivated to buy one, but this really does it...however I can only imagine how much fun one of those would be on a Mini-14, I can also imagine Wendy's face seeing one of those ON a Mini-14 :rolleyes:
 
mysticplayer said:
Well, by pinning the stock, the K version sure looking ###y. That would be a no brainer barrel to produce. The scale of the stock looks pretty close to orig so 12ish" barrel could be perfect.

Looks like K forend with C sight rail.

We are discussing an M4 'ish profile for the Carbine/AR style kit. Will do some measuring over the holidays.

Jerry
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Was doing some prelim on mine tonight. There's some measurements at toward the bottom that may help...

My son's suppling the donor in abstentia (boy will he be pissed when he gets back from the university I'm paying for:D)...

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If I lock the stock in place it looks like a about 11" will give me the perfect C variant length. In fact I think a Dlask 12" Threaded Taper would be just what the doctor ordered. Will post when I'm farther down the road...:cheers:

I wonder if an HMR2 barrel would be good in this case. Shouldn't be an issue with the 10 rnd mags (I haven't found a way to make the 25rders work... yet).
 
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supernova said:
looking at the stock and knowing measurements from my 18.5" carbine, I believe it would be real close to 26" w/ 18.5" Bbl and folded stock. Jerry, could you machine a FH into the OAL of your barrels?
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NO machining a FH into the barrel would be cost prohibitive.

Threaded muzzle is as close as we will get.

Thanks for all the pics and measurements. We will have to wait for the kits to come to get a true measurement but 12" seems to be about right. However, the forend on the kit is much longer.

A barrel with a 0.70" muzzle and no taper should look right for the part.

Can't wait to get my hands on a kit to finalize the design.

However, the need to pin the stock will fall on the final user.

Jerry
 
supernova said:
Jerry, could you machine a FH into the OAL of your barrels?
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mysticplayer said:
NO machining a FH into the barrel would be cost prohibitive.

Threaded muzzle is as close as we will get.
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Considering how many different flash hiders/brakes/etc. there are and how people like to try different things, I think that a threaded barrel is the only answer. Otherwise, whatever is on there will be wrong for half the people right off the bat.


mysticplayer said:
However, the need to pin the stock will fall on the final user.
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That seems fair as long as there is a reasonable way to do it and it doesn't turn into a bubba-fest.

Mark
 
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