Gaining ground. Hunting will not stop wild pigs invasion in Canada.
- Thread starter Why not?
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- Western Manitoba
As per Internet, this is a Russian Boar, aka Eurasian Boar. A fellow down the road from here used to have several dozen. I have been around enough barns and butchered enough pigs to doubt very much that a domestic pig breed turns into this, without some interbreeding and a few generations.
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Wild boars have been observed in wooded areas and in adjacent farm fields in the United Counties of Prescott and Russell beginning in late summer of 2013. Wild boars (feral swine) are not native to North America, but are sometimes farm-raised for their meat or other commercial purposes. The Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act (FWCA) requires that any escape of wildlife that has been transported into Ontario, or has been propagated by stock that was transported into Ontario, must be reported to the Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry (MNRF) and that the owner of such wildlife must recapture or kill it as soon as possible. To date, there has been no report of escaped wild boars and MNRF staff persons have been unable to determine the owner of these animals. As a result, the MNRF is authorizing landowners and hunters to kill any wild boars sighted as per Section 54 (5) of the FWCA.
Download the memorandum to residents of the United Counties of Prescott and Russell.
If you have seen or shot a wild boar, have information on a wild boar sighting, shooting or vehicle collision, or would like more information, please contact Mary Dillon, Management Biologist at MNRF’s Kemptville District Office at: (613) 258-8267 or mary.dillon@ontario.ca. Alternatively, you can call the ministry’s Natural Resource Information Centre (NRIC) toll-free at 1 (800) 667-1940 and ask to be re-directed to the Kemptville District Office.
Ardent
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Reconsider that thought- they are not something we want.
After they establish in north western Ontario i'll believe it . Snow measured in yards deep , long cold winters and we're loaded with bears and wolves ready for them . Bears and wolves killing adult moose to farmers cows and wolves killing bears so i see a few pigs as nothing more than lunch that won't establish in any great numbers around here . Just watched a program on youtube where they said up to 3.5 million in Texas that would be 10 million right now without hunters . Showed one big farm from the air with $50,000.00 in crop damage in one year . Two guys went hog hunting with AR-15s from a helicopter over 300,000 acres and got 4 in one afternoon . The pilot said sometimes you get a lot and sometimes you don't . Talked to a guy in Mississippi who has 16,000 acres in soy beans and rice and now lots of hogs but not huntable in daylight and difficult at night with night vision because his fields are all divided by bush lines to prevent erosion so even at night you don't see many even though there are lots . Dogs are of no value except for the entertainment of dog hunters but killing 3 or 4 is of no value to the farmers and helicopters don't work because the hogs stay in the swamps and heavily forested areas during the day . He allows anyone on his property as long as they stay on the roads and shoot from the truck . Guys with 4 wheel drives who drive through the fields cause as much damage as hogs .
- Location
- Western Manitoba
Wikipedia says there are hundreds of domestic pig breeds in the world. One notable is the Red Wattle - an American breed - grows to 1,500 pounds. Imagine a wild swine herd with those blood lines mixed with the wild boar - soon we'll have the "pig herd defence" thread on the go!! I have had a Yorkshire boar just about make it over a 48" pen in my Uncle's barn, and he had pretty decent tusks! I would not want to be caught unarmed if a herd thought I was a threat to their piglets - hell, even armed, I would not want to be in that situation!!
after decades of dealing with them in europe i wish all of the one that want to have a new specy to hunt the best luck ... first they will need to pay the damage done to farmers and raisers (what we were doing in france) and second staying at night on high seat to protect field and killing (no it is no more hunting ..) the boars that will dare to come.
then maybe doing 3-4 drives a year ...you need very good dogs and those ones are always wounded because the fight with boars are really bad ...
as a young hunter the sows had one litter a year, today it not unheard between 2 and 3 litters a year because of the food, shelter and of course less hunters ...
so again good luck.
then maybe doing 3-4 drives a year ...you need very good dogs and those ones are always wounded because the fight with boars are really bad ...
as a young hunter the sows had one litter a year, today it not unheard between 2 and 3 litters a year because of the food, shelter and of course less hunters ...
so again good luck.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Well they thrive in Russia’s taiga and south Siberia, alongside Tigers and Brown (Grizz for all purposes) bears. Something tells me our climate and Ontario’s predators aren’t going to be a massive roadblock for them.
smokin'stoegie
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- Location
- S/West Ontario
YouTube has some interesting videos that show how difficult it is to trap these things.
Different companies in Texas trap them but it takes weeks before they have success however they tend to trap the whole sounder.
Multiple that by a ga-zillion and it is easy to see how much time and effort is needed to control them
Different companies in Texas trap them but it takes weeks before they have success however they tend to trap the whole sounder.
Multiple that by a ga-zillion and it is easy to see how much time and effort is needed to control them
Feral hogs are a disaster on so many levels it is scary.
1. They are a reservoir for disease. Currently in Europe they have Swine Fever in the feral hog population. PED is not far off. Hogs can harbour a huge list of diseases, (brucellosis, tuberculosis, pseudo rabies, tularemia etc) many of which will get our borders slammed shut for export. Think BSE - mad cow disease. They can also harbour zoononic diseases such as anthrax.
2. Feral hogs will eat anything plant or animal that they can access and they have ravenous appetites. No ground dwelling animals will be safe including smaller predators, fawns, elk or moose calves. Any ground nesting birds, ie grouse, will be in serious danger. A large population of hogs could very easily change the browsing environment enough to reduce feed to adult game animals. Hogs love wet swampy areas so goodbye ducks and geese etc.
3. Feral hogs are dangerous to humans. Anyone that lives in the country could add another animal to the caution list. Livestock depredation is well documented in both Europe and the USA.
4. How do governments respond when something comes along and seriously disrupts the economy? ( I mean a real government, not Shiny Pony and the Unicorns) They start passing new LAWS. Anyone see this going bad??
5. The cost to agriculture in the United States is measured in the BILLIONS of dollars. There is no reason to expect that it will cost any less here in Canada.
I'm sorry, but anyone suggesting that feral hogs in Canada would be okay is being selfish in the extreme.
1. They are a reservoir for disease. Currently in Europe they have Swine Fever in the feral hog population. PED is not far off. Hogs can harbour a huge list of diseases, (brucellosis, tuberculosis, pseudo rabies, tularemia etc) many of which will get our borders slammed shut for export. Think BSE - mad cow disease. They can also harbour zoononic diseases such as anthrax.
2. Feral hogs will eat anything plant or animal that they can access and they have ravenous appetites. No ground dwelling animals will be safe including smaller predators, fawns, elk or moose calves. Any ground nesting birds, ie grouse, will be in serious danger. A large population of hogs could very easily change the browsing environment enough to reduce feed to adult game animals. Hogs love wet swampy areas so goodbye ducks and geese etc.
3. Feral hogs are dangerous to humans. Anyone that lives in the country could add another animal to the caution list. Livestock depredation is well documented in both Europe and the USA.
4. How do governments respond when something comes along and seriously disrupts the economy? ( I mean a real government, not Shiny Pony and the Unicorns) They start passing new LAWS. Anyone see this going bad??
5. The cost to agriculture in the United States is measured in the BILLIONS of dollars. There is no reason to expect that it will cost any less here in Canada.
I'm sorry, but anyone suggesting that feral hogs in Canada would be okay is being selfish in the extreme.
True enough . My parents had friends who escaped the communists from Estonia . No running water in the rural areas but no outhouses either . They built shytters on the side of the house with a dugout under it . Hogs would go in the dugout and eat human shyte so no need to ever shovel it out . Like eating at a Husky truck stop .
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We definitely don't want them in our ecosystem . They are a very destructive species , and more importantly , are not native to this country . They should be eradicated period , along side any other non-native species .
They are also a dangerous species . I'll be the first to call it , how long before we see Wild Boar defense threads ?
They are also a dangerous species . I'll be the first to call it , how long before we see Wild Boar defense threads ?
