Gen 2 NEA uppers

[Moparman1303]

Something is wrong you should not need excessive force to assemble parts.

That's how tight colt canada does its tolerances. If I didn't squeeze down on the upper monocular not push the rear pin out with my fingers. It's just how solid of the lock up it has.

 

[*MALICE*]

The reason that some people find that NEA uppers close tight onto lowers is because, unlike every other AR manufacturer, NEA only drills a hole for the rear takedown lug as opposed to a slot.

Nobody has been able to give me any sensical reason as to why, though.

 

[Leg]

I'd buy matched uper/lower rather than buy them saperately, especially on billet CNC receivers.
Miss mached upper and lower from differnt manufactures (or forged and bilet ) can have very high possibility of fitment issues, either too tight or too lose.

NEA have very good wattanty. Take a bit of time, but they do stand behind their products and willing to slove your problems.

I prob buy an other set for PDW build, and i wish to see their AR10 in the future.

Been a firearm manuafacture in this mostly left-wing driven country is hard, and try to mass produce everything in house, in canada, is even harder. Those canadians bravely chosed a bumpy road rather than sources items over the boarder, and getting better everyday, they are the real drving power of canadian industry. That's some great spirit that we have been neglacted for a while. Let's not forget the tragedy of Nortel, Blackberry, Bombardier, ext, we should supprot our own industry.

I get tired of hearing this. I will not support a company that has so little respect for their customers that they continually put out garbage. So they "make it right", big friggin' deal. Maybe if their products were made properly in the first place they wouldn't have use their "stellar" warranty as a selling point. Not to mention the fact that they use to regularly argue, bully and verbally abuse anyone that would question their products or design decisions. F#*k 'em.

 

[mg4201]

The reason that some people find that NEA uppers close tight onto lowers is because, unlike every other AR manufacturer, NEA only drills a hole for the rear takedown lug as opposed to a slot.

Nobody has been able to give me any sensical reason as to why, though.

Because drills are cheaper than endmills

 

[mg4201]

I'd buy matched uper/lower rather than buy them saperately, especially on billet CNC receivers.
Miss mached upper and lower from differnt manufactures (or forged and bilet ) can have very high possibility of fitment issues, either too tight or too lose.

NEA have very good wattanty. Take a bit of time, but they do stand behind their products and willing to slove your problems.

I prob buy an other set for PDW build, and i wish to see their AR10 in the future.

Been a firearm manuafacture in this mostly left-wing driven country is hard, and try to mass produce everything in house, in canada, is even harder. Those canadians bravely chosed a bumpy road rather than sources items over the boarder, and getting better everyday, they are the real drving power of canadian industry. That's some great spirit that we have been neglacted for a while. Let's not forget the tragedy of Nortel, Blackberry, Bombardier, ext, we should supprot our own industry.

That is simply not true IMO. Tolerances and allowances go like this if tab A goes into slot B, then the top limit of A is Always smaller than the bottom limit of B even after you add clearance to A. What happens when you don't check the finished sizes regularly (we check every part where I work) is that at the end mill wears A gets bigger and B gets smaller until the clearance is gone and the parts don't fit. Once you add anno or cerakote or whatever this gets worse. This is easily checked by using simple cheap go no go gauges or micrometers. Measuring doesn't even cost time because the operator does it while the next part is cutting. When you don't take the steps I have outlined here you end up have to make silly excuses for parts that don't fit. Tight control of finished sizes is absolutely necessary when manufacturing mating parts. But that is just my opinion. By the way when you say "billet" like it is a type of part or manufacturing, you show that you have no idea what you are talking about, just sayin,

 

[Sqr]

That's how tight colt canada does its tolerances. If I didn't squeeze down on the upper monocular not push the rear pin out with my fingers. It's just how solid of the lock up it has.

My long range AR was built tight and to compensated for this I have used Yankee Hill Push/Pull take down pins. A tight receiver combination is good for any AR.

 

[Dietz]

My long range AR was built tight and to compensated for this I have used Yankee Hill Push/Pull take down pins. A tight receiver combination is good for any AR.

It's completely irrelevant.

 

[Still alive]

With all the free stuff that NEA is sending out for warranty purposes and the bad press they keep getting, I'm amazed that they are still in business, let alone developing Gen8 guns!
At least Eotech is supported by L3! And their sales numbers are ( were!!) a bazillion more than NEA ever was.

 

[Sqr]

I get tired of hearing this. I will not support a company that has so little respect for their customers that they continually put out garbage. So they "make it right", big friggin' deal. Maybe if their products were made properly in the first place they wouldn't have use their "stellar" warranty as a selling point. Not to mention the fact that they use to regularly argue, bully and verbally abuse anyone that would question their products or design decisions. F#*k 'em.

you can say the same for GM, VW, Harley, NorC, CT, Honda, Sears, Toshiba, Microsoft, etc. etc. Some buyers have suffered hell and some have had good experiences with manufactures.

 

[mg4201]

you can say the same for GM, VW, Harley, NorC, CT, Honda, Sears, Toshiba, Microsoft, etc. etc. Some buyers have suffered hell and some have had good experiences with manufactures.

None of those companies CONSISTENTLY put out garbage. Given the massive volume of product that say Honda puts out (largest engine manufacturer in the world IIRC) if their products were consistently garbage they would be out of business.

 

[skoal]

I get tired of hearing this. I will not support a company that has so little respect for their customers that they continually put out garbage. So they "make it right", big friggin' deal. Maybe if their products were made properly in the first place they wouldn't have use their "stellar" warranty as a selling point. Not to mention the fact that they use to regularly argue, bully and verbally abuse anyone that would question their products or design decisions. F#*k 'em.

Litteraly took the words out of my mouth,and they haven't got their #### together considering the SFRC lowers don't even work with the nea uppers.

 

[Sqr]

None of those companies CONSISTENTLY put out garbage. Given the massive volume of product that say Honda puts out (largest engine manufacturer in the world IIRC) if their products were consistently garbage they would be out of business.

Not really as programming buyers to what is cool over quality is how many companies sell. Case in point Microsoft as their product is pure junk with many flaws and upgrade requirements to sustain the business.

People keep buying.

 

[Sqr]

It's completely irrelevant.

Wrong, many custom and high end AR OEM's, including Aero Precision who sells to a number of other brand names use tightening methods.

It's very very important to have a good tight fit.

 

[Leg]

A tight fit is irrelevant. People think that it helps so the companies oblige and sell it to you.

I like a decent snug fit myself but it has absolutely SFA to do with accuracy.

 

[Sqr]

A tight fit is irrelevant. People think that it helps so the companies oblige and sell it to you.

I like a decent snug fit myself but it has absolutely SFA to do with accuracy.

A firearm wobble or Harmonics can be so distracting to a shooter that it can affect the accuracy by distraction alone. The shooter must have confidence in the firearm too only concentrate on the target, breathing, finger control and so forth.

Dam a clean car drives much better then a dirty one. All is in the mind.

 

[mg4201]

Not really as programming buyers to what is cool over quality is how many companies sell. Case in point Microsoft as their product is pure junk with many flaws and upgrade requirements to sustain the business.

People keep buying.

What does Microsoft have to do with Honda?. Comparing Microsoft to Honda is comparing NEA to DD or CC, they are at opposite ends of the quality spectrum.

 

[mg4201]

A tight fit is irrelevant. People think that it helps so the companies oblige and sell it to you.

I like a decent snug fit myself but it has absolutely SFA to do with accuracy.

You are correct, in fact I would argue that a too tight fit puts the same kind of stress on a rifle that bad bedding does.

 

[Dietz]

Wrong, many custom and high end AR OEM's, including Aero Precision who sells to a number of other brand names use tightening methods.

It's very very important to have a good tight fit.

It's not. Period.

A firearm wobble can be so distracting to a shooter that it can affect the accuracy by distraction alone. The shooter must have confidence in the firearm too only concentrate on the target, breathing, finger control and so forth.

Dam a clean car drives much better then a dirty one. All is in the mind.

 

[Sinasta]

Litteraly took the words out of my mouth,and they haven't got their #### together considering the SFRC lowers don't even work with the nea uppers.

Ryan said their lowers are not made by NEA.

 

[Sqr]

It's not. Period.

Again wrong period!

A semi auto fire arms harmonics is very important when precision shooting especially when using a 308. For the shooter, the weight and movement in the system is going to exploit any weakness in your fundamentals of marksmanship, especially Trigger Control and Follow Through. If you have a habit of “tapping” your trigger on your bolt gun the gas gun receiver movement will exploit this dramatically.

A semi is designed around the upper and lower together as a unit so it vital for a good fit. The engineers did not design a rifle and as an afterthought throw a lower into the design.

If you want to run a sloppy semi be my guest, however precision shooters feel other wise.