George Gibbs Ltd 375 h&h

So I got poking around on the net, and found this pic of an original Gibbs .505 on a magnum action. If you look closely, you'll see that the square bridge has been rounded off, so it's the same height as the bolt sleeve flange and the charger guide. I dug up another photo in my Mauser book by Jon Speed, and it shows the same treatment on the .505 they have pictured there, but with a stippled rear bridge. So that would explain the odd shaped rear bridge on this .375. I'm still not convinced it's not a magnum action, but at the very least it was a square bridge commercial Mauser.

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Which nut would they like for that. Hell, I'd give either, maybe even both. Not like I'm using them for much most days. Probably get more use out of the 505!
 
yes, that makes three of us in desperate need of a .505....

Did the OP disappear? I was quite interested in more info on this one.
 
That's the one magazine rifle I'm sorely tempted by after playing with stickhunter's, which I still have and ought to return before it feels like giving up one of my sons. It's a cartridge of surprisingly good manners.

Have you considered a .500 Jeffery? Tony Sanchez-Arino wrote a couple of articles about this calibre, and was fairly gushing with praise for it. The Schuler rifles were built on standard Mauser actions, with inline magazines, and I've seen a couple of modern rifles given the same treatment.

I've been sorely tempted myself, but it's hard to justify spending thousands of dollars on a rifle that will most likely never be used in earnest. That would be a lot of gun for just plinking.
 
Angus:

Thank you for the kind words. Although I am not a fan of Papa's writing style; I much prefer Messrs. Corbett, Bell & Patterson, I do, nevertheless, appreciate the thought.

I have several times thought of having my .375 Jeffery, built on a Pattern 14 with a heavy-for-caliber barrel profile,



re-barrelled to either Mrs. Dinenson's husband's or The Hunter is Death's favourite cartridge, (.505 Rimless Nitro Express, aka .505 Gibbs [600 gr. @ 2,100 fps]) or Mrs. Jamieson's son Fletcher's favourite, (the 12.7x70 Schuler [.500 Jeffery 570 gr. @ 2,200 fps]), but never pursued the matter. Although I was leaning towards Mr. Gibbs' longer offering, to make full use of the rifle's cavernous magazine, I thought the .510 groove of Mr. Schuler's would be easier to feed. Back & forth the arguments went, ad infinitum.

So, I ended up with a Ruger #1 in .500 N.E., which, alas, went to Westley Richards, U.S. about 20 years ago.

So isn't it about time we see some more red ink in your tag-line?

Regards,

Jim
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9.3mauser:

Thank you sir!

I find, as I get longer in the tooth, that I am drawn more & more to the older offerings, perhaps because of their quality, or perhaps simply because of my imagination's wanderings as to their provenance and past deeds and simply no longer have any interest whatsoever in the newer stuff, unless patterned after the old stuff (think Mauser's or Rigby's new M98 offerings).

When I retired, I bought myself, among a number of other things, a CZ 550 in .416 Rigby, then procured a Safari Classics stock for it. It is now gone. Had a Whitworth Safari in .458; it is now gone (too bloody light!, notwithstanding 2 mercury recoil reducers & later being Magna-ported, firing it off-hand for more than 3 rounds resulted in a head-ache quite likely very similar to that which would develop after going a round with Ali or Frazier with the inevitable head-pounding that would entail). All of my Remingtons & Winchesters (except my Dad's 1946 made Model 94 carbine & my uncle's 1906 made Model 1894 rifle) are gone. My bolt actions are all based on either James Paris' or Peter Paul's designs, while my remaining singles are either of Daldhu's favourite son John's design, or Henry O's. Of my remaining shotguns, they are all of the side-by-each variety in 12 bore, albeit of both Anson & Deeley as well as the bar-action inside-hammer variety.

You know, now that I think about it, that probably makes me a Fudd's Fudd, as I haven't had any interest in semi-or fully-automatic weapons since shortly after I left the military a life-time ago (although I used to own an FAL, an ex- Royal Dutch Marine AR10, an FN-49, a Rashid & a couple of Swedish AG-42B's when I lived in Yellowknife); I lost my interest in military weapons of any kind 30 years ago (I used to have a collection of ~300 older military rifles, thanks to Tony's Century International Gun of the Month Club); lost my interest in handguns (I owned 8 various handguns over the years, from a Single Six to a .44 Mag. Llama Super Commanche with a Dirty Harry 8" barrel that my, at-the-time 8 year old son could shoot very well, to various pistols, from a Beretta .32 ACP to a quartet of Mister Jonathan's designs) about 25 years ago, and lost my interest in rifles or shotguns made after the Second World War about 15 years ago, about the same time I lost interest in benchrest shooting. I haven't lost my interest in firearms; my tastes have simply changed, as has, I daresay, my taste in adult beverages or vehicles, for that matter. From cheap home-made wine & beer to 12 year old Canadian rye with teeth-numbingly cold Canadian Shield lake water back & a nice malbec. From 2 wheeled to four (1962 Triumph Trophy slick-shift, 1970 Triumph Bonneville, 1972 H-D Electra-Glide with suicide-shift, 1974 H-D Decker to 1975 TLC FJ-40, 1981 BJ42, 1989 BJ75, 1990 HZXJ77, 1996 FZJ80).

However, since I was never one to bow to peer pressure; on the contrary, stubborn SOB that I am, it just solidifies my resolve, I just don't give a rat's a$$ what anybody else thinks, says or does unless it interferes with me.

BTDT. BTTS,GAT!

BTW, if you want to see pics of some more of my goodies, check out my posts (my handle there is old_rifle_nut) on NitroExpress.
 
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Have you considered a .500 Jeffery? Tony Sanchez-Arino wrote a couple of articles about this calibre, and was fairly gushing with praise for it. The Schuler rifles were built on standard Mauser actions, with inline magazines, and I've seen a couple of modern rifles given the same treatment.

I've been sorely tempted myself, but it's hard to justify spending thousands of dollars on a rifle that will most likely never be used in earnest. That would be a lot of gun for just plinking.

Nope. I can't warm up to Tony...it seems like every article he writes has to include his tally of animals. Same way that I often see Brian Pearce use the phrase "thousand pound range bull" that makes me want to slap him. But back to Tony, I find him smug and superior so I don't bother with his writing. In regards to the Schuler/Jeffery, I can's warm myself up to the higher pressures (likely a non-issue in the 21st century) and rebated rim. Plus there is something absolutely undeniably ###y about that behemoth Gibbs case.

And Phil Shoemaker built one for bear defense in Alaska. Elephant rifle and bear defense rifle in one? Hell yes!
 
James you know I felt the same way about Hemingway's run on sentences and almost uneducated style, but I've been sucked in this last year and I'm on the fourth of his books in as many months. Poor prose, but fantastic characters and storylines soaked in underlying significance and messages. The style is seriously curious however and lacks flow, no question there, it was written under the influence of copious amounts of alchohol and certainly appears to improve when one imbibes.

On the red ink, I've been taken for a lot of money along with two other Canadians on a rhino hunt scheme. I don't want to derail this wonderful thread but you can get up to speed here. Unfortunately my elephant was piggy backed on this as this was by far the most expensive hunt I'd ever book, and after delay and delay, it finally came to light it wasn't going to happen and it was too late to go after the elephant this year. We're pushed back to next year on elephant, and hopefully back on schedule, trying not to think about the rhino fiasco.

http://www.africahunting.com/thread...g-situation-with-rhinocon-anton-bakker.17695/
 
James do you have more Pictures of your Pattern 14 375 Jeffries? It looks very well built, who did the work?
I ask as I'm building a 9.3x62 on an old Remington models 30 Express and am looking for ideas, on sight configuration on stock design.
Great thread guys!
Dale Z
 
Angus:
I feel truly bad for you w.r.t the rhino. Reading the story just started me grinding my teeth! To make matters worse, didn't you just buy the Royal not long ago?

Hollowedpoint:
Thank you.

Zywina:
I'm sorry, but I do not know the answer to your questions as to who did the work. As far as I know, based on my research, W.J.Jeffery & Son did not do any work themselves, as was quite common in the British gun trade "back in the day". The 3 Mauser's I previously owned that were retailed by them all had both German & Birmingham proof marks on them, indicating they were bought in as completed rifles. Winfer's book indicates Thomas Turner "finished" a lot of his single shot rifles, which were based on Webley actions (and possibly barrelled actions); Daniel Leonard & A.A. Brown made double rifles for the firm, but I have not come across any information with respect to who "made" rifles on other bolt action receivers. The firm was known to contract with a lot of outworkers.

The 1954 pattern Birmingham Proof marks, the 5b Pall Mall barrel address & the serial number all point to a late 1950's date of manufacture, as does the stock style, somewhat similar to both a Holland & Holland & a Cogswell & Harrison I have seen which were both built on these actions during the same time-frame. Like the 3 Mauser 98 actioned rifles I have owned which were retailed by Jeffery, this one also has Birmingham Proof marks.

As for style tips, check out the nitroexpress thread on P14 actioned rifles.
 
Sure did, but that's life. The Royal is wonderful fortunately and has stoked a new fire in my desire to get back, I actually have queried a few exchanges for it on "old world" big Elephant hunts. Odds are I'll keep it and try and find a problem animal control hunt in Zim.

Angus do your homework on PAC in Zim ...

i m answering your pm later today.

Phil
 
Sure did, but that's life. The Royal is wonderful fortunately and has stoked a new fire in my desire to get back, I actually have queried a few exchanges for it on "old world" big Elephant hunts. Odds are I'll keep it and try and find a problem animal control hunt in Zim.

I'd be looking at Mozambique, up North. USFWS doesn't allow import of elephant from Moz which means you cut that American market out which is not insignificant. The other option for "heavy" ivory is the Caprivi. Botswana genetics but not closed. Plus I would imagine there will be a lot more ele in the Strip with the Botswana boreholes starting to go dry. You'll probably pay more for it and it won't be a traditional "East African" hunt, but it will likely be the heaviest ivory you can get.

Still, a tented hunt in Northern Moz would be as close to an old time hunt as you can get, without paying out the ass for Tanzania. Then again, a real African aficionado should probably hunt the Selous before they completely #### the continent up.
 
Excellent points all around, I've been eager to try a good area of Moz. My agent in this mess I've known for awhile and he has a menu of things I'm interested to make this up on, Caprivi is top. Good Ele hunt there is $50,000, not at all different than any prime area in reality though. Hoping the agent comes through, will see. This may all be moot as I have a pending offer on a new hunting area, principal focus would be Grizzlies and goats, and if that goes through that's getting all my money and attention. Lots happening in life right now, getting burned that bad made me rather pissed and primed to improve my situation.
 
Excellent points all around, I've been eager to try a good area of Moz. My agent in this mess I've known for awhile and he has a menu of things I'm interested to make this up on, Caprivi is top. Good Ele hunt there is $50,000, not at all different than any prime area in reality though. Hoping the agent comes through, will see. This may all be moot as I have a pending offer on a new hunting area, principal focus would be Grizzlies and goats, and if that goes through that's getting all my money and attention. Lots happening in life right now, getting burned that bad made me rather pissed and primed to improve my situation.

What happened Ardent?
 
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