German FN Hi Power and enhanced holster
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It's always a bubba job without provenance...
Calling it "vet art" or "trench art" is wishful thinking at best, or straight up misleading if trying to elicit more value for the item at worst.
If it's legit there is provenance, if not it's bubba. There is no in between.....IMHO of course.
Lol
I'd disagree with you. While the holster itself is worth less as a mint holster the sum of the parts is still worth more. And there is an accepted niche of vet art. Helmets have this niche as well. As well as belts with stuff pinned on. As desirable as an untouched original? No. But calling it bubba'd is a bit extreme.
The ϞϞ skull is worth more on the open world wide market alone then attached to the holster. An assessment on WAF suggested the skull alone could be $600usd. So whoever applied it didn't do it for financial gain. And didn't make it more useful or sporterizing. I didn't pay a premium for the trinkets, neither did the last owner.
So if they didn't do it for usefulness.
And didn't do it for monetary gain.
It's likely whoever did it didn't pay for the items, did not see them as valuable. Ie someone who obtained them like a vet.
It's an accepted area of the collecting world. You may disagree but in this case you are wrong.
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Unless you can prove who did it, it's bubbas work. I have a nice Haer "Got Mittens" belt, i could pin a couple reichsmarks to it and tell a hell of a story and some fools would believe it, doesn't mean ####.
Bull#### has always been a niche in the collecting world, authenticity has always been there to weed that out. Make a claim, prove it. Speculation, prove it. Guessing, better be an expert on the subject matter.
The holster could have been slapped together by some KKK or skinhead loser rather then a soldier during or after the war.
Sure could have been, but if you'd consider the facts and be reasonable it's unlikely. When's the last time you threw $500 in the trash? Because that's what they have done here.
It could be real, or fake. No matter what, it's 4 pieces of nice ww2 militaria that came together somehow. You don't have to like it, or accept it. But lots of people do. It would be fukin easy to grab a nice holster and match it up. Not so easy to make this one. So it doesn't really matter. I'm not placing a premium on anything nor is it for sale. Besides I've Never seen you post anything relevant in this section before anyways. Seems like you wandered in just to add your .01.
By the way, reichsmarks are pretty much worthless and dirt common. Lol. So that wouldn't add much to your belt no matter who did it.
Nazi stuff was not always expensive, there is still markets in the world that have this stuff and no idea of the value here, lots of ways to scrounge up stuff outside North America.
I'm German, and I get the collecting Nazi #### because it's valuable, appreciates over time, there is a market for it blah blah. I don't get that it's "neat" or that the history behind it is anything but appalling. The Canadian and British vets I knew hated Germans until the day they died and would not have kept, or collected, or would be proud to have in their possession any piece of German or Nazi gear....ever. Lots of Brit and Canadian gear they were quite proud of though. So in my experience with vets, romanticizing about one of those boys putting together a holster like that out of spare parts during or after the war sounds pretty much retarded and not remotely realistic.
My brother collects the ####...and my cousin brings him stuff back from all over the world (Navy)...it's not too hard to find, and generally nothing near what the cost is here.
That's the point, doesn't add #### to the value, but maybe I'd get a big ole laugh out of it....and I could bull#### the boys at the bar about it. Apparently that carries some value as evidence of this thread.....
Well I guess it's a fact based on the number of vets you knew that not one of them would own a piece of nazi gear. I guess the vets grand daughter that I bought three helmets, and jackboots from didn't get the memo? Can you explain all the guns that still come from vet estates? Those guys sure don't seem to mind owning them. They still show up on a regular basis in the USA. The Americans liked their souvenirs more then Canadians and Brits I guess. Perhaps you haven't seen photos of Gis smiling ear to ear as they grab a rifle and helmet from a pile to send home.....google it or read a book or article or thread about Americans and their souvenirs.
And There arent markets like that anymore. People in every corner of the globe have the Internet and know pricing. Stuff out of Russia, Latvia, Estonia, Poland Ukraine is all expensive these days.
I now see who I'm arguing with. The history is appalling wah wah wah. Mosins and svt that are sold at Canadian tire have the potential to be just as bad history wise. Even bad history has to be remembered.
I'm finished arguing with you. I don't think it's a bubba'd piece you do. I vote conservative you vote liberal. We have to just agree to disagree.
And There arent markets like that anymore. People in every corner of the globe have the Internet and know pricing. Stuff out of Russia, Latvia, Estonia, Poland Ukraine is all expensive these days.
I now see who I'm arguing with. The history is appalling wah wah wah. Mosins and svt that are sold at Canadian tire have the potential to be just as bad history wise. Even bad history has to be remembered.
I'm finished arguing with you. I don't think it's a bubba'd piece you do. I vote conservative you vote liberal. We have to just agree to disagree.
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