Get started reloading with the Lee Loader Classic.

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This is a guide on how to get started using a lee loader classic. I find there is basically no information on getting started using this great budget product. This all was all gathered from my many hours of research and experience of actually doing it.

I am also going to say that this is not the way to reload mass quantities of ammo. If you are a hunter or a plinker (like me) this will be ideal because it is a good side hobby that will have you saving money on ammo. It is quite easy to sit down and make 50 cartridges that will be plenty safe and capable of hunting or smacking a gong from 300 meters away.
In this example I will be reloading 30-06 Springfield however the process is exactly the same with every cartridge.
Is reloading actually cost effective? Yes, if you do it right. I am not going to go into great detail on cost because each caliber will cost different in different locations. Reloading ammo will cost about 40% less then store bought ammo after you break even. I buy all the cheapest components every time which puts put me able to reload 30-06 for .70 cents a shot. At the time of writing this the cheapest 30-06 ammo I could find at Cabela’s is $1.20 a shot.

To start off you will obviously need to buy your components and tools. Buy the tools first then the components, I will explain why in just a moment.
This is the Lee Loader Classic kit that you will need, it’s about 40 bucks. Don’t get it confused with the dies that go into an actually press. The packaging is similar.
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You will also need these tools to prepare your brass. The middle one is bought in two pieces that you then screw together. Alternatively you can buy the fancy and expensive case prep machines but this option is about 20 bucks.
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You will then need to get a set of calipers. Don’t buy the Cabela’s ones for 60 bucks. I got mine at Canadian tire for 20 bucks and they are exactly the same except blue. Also buy a non-metal hammer.
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Now that you have the tools, look at the back of the paper that comes in your kit. Pick the bullet type you want to use then go back to the store and buy that bullet and the powder it says to use. Buy some primers too.
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If you can’t find the powder listed for the bullet you want to use or it is ridiculously expensive go buy the Modern Reloading book by Richard Lee and the Lee Dipper set. The two are probably 30 bucks combined and then you can actually reload multiple caliber s this way. They look like this.
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As for brass just keep whatever factory ammo you have been using. Some people will say brass is free this way. You can also pick it up off the ground at ranges if it is in good shape which I will go over later. If you buy brass in the store the cheapest stuff is fine.

Just buy whatever primers you want. I just ask for the cheapest ones. The 1000 meter precision shooters will say the primer makes a difference but for hunting or plinking people, you won’t know the difference. I am using CCI. Pay attention to that paper because it tells you which ones to get. For 30-06 you use large rifle primers
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For the bullets I am using 150gr soft point made Hornady. Don’t expect to pay 41 dollars, the price on these fluctuates. 30-06 uses a .308” diameter bullets so don’t just buy it because it says 30 cal.
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Now that you have all your tools let’s get started making cartridges.

Inspect your brass. If it is brand new it’s good to go assuming it’s not mangled or missing portions. If you are reusing fired brass just make sure it not cracked, badly bent or dented. Here is a good brass, it’s a little dirty but I will go over that right away
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Now look at this one. It’s not totally round but its close enough. This can still be used.
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As for cleaning make sure all the sand or mud is off it. Then you will see fired brass will get dirty from firing. It does not have to be spotless to work but the cleaner it is the more reliably it will feed and keep your gun clean. I did not bother cleaning the brass above and reloaded it. Below is a clean enough brass with the product I use. I got it at Canadian Tire
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Now that your brass is in good enough shape to use, we now have to de-prime it. Put the brass in the little holder and use the pin looking tool to push out the primer. Tap the pin looking tool, you won’t have to hit it very hard. This step will also round out the brass. The used primer is now garbage
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Next is to measure the length of the brass to make sure it’s not too long. Brass stretches when you shoot it. Use your calipers and make sure it is below the max that is listed on the paper. Zero you calipers often, they can get wonky sometimes. As you can see the paper says the maximum brass length is 63.35mm. My brass is 63.25mm so it’s good to go. Yes you can use non metric if you were born before 1990.
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If your brass is too long take the two part tool. The stick part that is marked 30/06 is a guide and not to be used as measure regardless of what the package may tell you. Give it some spins and whittle down the brass. It probably won’t take much so don’t go overboard. You a running sharp steal over brass in an attempt to take down less than a millimetre
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Next you have to clean out the primer pocket. Use the bigger end for large rifle primers and scrap out all the carbon that’s in there. Some primers are dirty than others.
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Then take the chamfer tool and give it a couple spins inside and out. It just smooths out the brass which will remove any potential burs, makes the bullet seat easier and in theory helps with feeding.
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Next is sizing, put the brass in the stainless steel body. Using a non-metal hammer hit the brass to force it into the steel body. It only fits one way. Pound the brass in so that it is flush with the bottom of the body. You have just neck sized your brass. Since you only necked sized your brass it may not fit in any other rifle but the one you fired the brass from. Depending on the cartridge it may be difficult to pound in. 303 British can almost be done by hand but 30-06 needs a table and a decent swing of the hammer. I use a 4x4 post as a pounding post so I don’t vibrate everything off the table while hammering.
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Now we are going to prime the brass. Start with putting a primer in the smoking pipe looking tool.
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Put the body with the brass in it over the pipe then put the metal rod into the brass and tap the metal rod with a non-metal hammer. It won’t be that hard. This may seem dangerous but the pipe is measured out and spring loaded to do this job. I have never had a primer go off but I wear safety glasses any way. This is the same process as a press expect it’s done in one swift motion instead of a slow push of a press. The primer should be flush with the brass.
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Now we are going to put gun powder into the brass. If you are using the 3.7cc dipper that came with the kit make the corresponding powder flush with the top of the dipper. A credit card will make sure its level or you can just eye ball it. A tiny bit extra or less won’t cause a problem. If you bought the book and dipper set use whatever dipper to whatever powder you bought. The picture shows too low of powder because I did not want to make a mess while taking a picture. I also put it back on the de-priming holder so that the primer is not sitting on the table. It probably won’t go off since primers are not super sensitive but why risk it?
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Sometimes the powder will cling to the walls like this. Just tap the outside and the powder will fall in. Some powder is worse than others for this. I put my powder into a small Rubbermaid while reloading because I hand does not fit into a bottle of powder.
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Now we seat the bullet. You will notice the threads and nut on the stainless steel body. Start it off high up. Then drop the bullet in and use the pipe to push it into the brass. Adjust the nut so that when the pipe is pushed all the way down the puts the bullet into place. This will take some trial and error but you should only have to do it once as long as you use the same bullets every time. Keep in mind that the cartridge will probably fall out of the sizing part when you do this so the de-priming holder is a good idea.
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The last thing to do is measure again to make sure it is not too long. As you can see 84.84mm is the maximum overall length so don’t exceed that. 80.47mm is just fine.
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As for too short well if you think the bullet is in too far it probably is. You know how a bullet is supposed to look. If it is in too far or you made a mistake and forgot to put powder in or something like that,(we all do it) then get a bullet puller for 20 bucks.
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You cartridge is fully loaded and ready to go. Seem like a lot of work? Using a press is the same process except you pull a lever instead of swinging a hammer.

For storing your new tools I recommend a SKS ammo box that you probably have any way. Everything fits inside and now your reloading tools are portable for the zombie apocalypse or more realistically making loads at the range.
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An excellent tutorial.

One suggestion though. I know that Lee wants you to prime the cases by driving them out of the resizing chamber and onto the priming anvil, probably because they feel that this protects you should a primer detonate. However, I think that this probably encourages a primer detonation since you really can't feel the amount of force that you are applying, and because you need to strike the rod harder in order to remove the neck-sized case from the chamber.

I always used to prime the cases as a batch after they had been resized, without being enclosed by the resizing chamber. You can better feel the force of your taps, tap lighter, and more easily determine when the primers are fully seated.

In my experience, if you get a little crazy with your priming, and do set off the odd primer, it simply imparts a bit of a concussive effect to your fingers, but does no harm. There are no flying fragments and the rod isn't ejected.

But, of course, you should wear safety glasses.
 
I started with a Lee Loader I got for $9.95 at the old SIR store in Winnipeg for my 45-70.
Still have it.
Have moved up to a Lee Hand Press bought at the same store for $29.95.
The Lee Hand Press takes the normal 7/8" dies and is capable of full length sizing and can do just about anything a bench mounted press can do but SLOWER.
Can load several 20 round boxes of high quality hunting ammo while sitting in front of the tv.
 
Nice post. That’s how I started, just making cheaper ammo for my 7mm Rem Mag. I bought the book, the dippers, and the Lee Safety Scale right off the get go. Some powders, like Benchmard, I can’t tell the difference between weighed and dipper charges at the range (204 Ruger).
But slower powder are usually “stick” powders, so dipper loads are not very consistent. I weighed a few dippers of IMR 4831,and found them inconsistent. So I trickle each load, on the scale. I can tell the difference at the range.

Q1: Why measure the case length... why not just hit it with the Lee case trimmer?

Q2: Where are the primers? Good plan not having them in the box with your powder!

Comment: I had several primers go off with this system. The original priming chamber had a small mfg defect, kinda like a firing pin in the centre. Not too scared bit of a poof, not much problem. Safety glasses of course. Lee customer service fixed the problem
 
Nice post. That’s how I started, just making cheaper ammo for my 7mm Rem Mag. I bought the book, the dippers, and the Lee Safety Scale right off the get go. Some powders, like Benchmard, I can’t tell the difference between weighed and dipper charges at the range (204 Ruger).
But slower powder are usually “stick” powders, so dipper loads are not very consistent. I weighed a few dippers of IMR 4831,and found them inconsistent. So I trickle each load, on the scale. I can tell the difference at the range.

Q1: Why measure the case length... why not just hit it with the Lee case trimmer?

Q2: Where are the primers? Good plan not having them in the box with your powder!

Comment: I had several primers go off with this system. The original priming chamber had a small mfg defect, kinda like a firing pin in the centre. Not too scared bit of a poof, not much problem. Safety glasses of course. Lee customer service fixed the problem

A1: Often time the case is shorter than the maximum even after firing a few times. When I am load 303 British they are almost always shorter. No point in make a in spec case shorter.

A1: I took the picture after I threw out the box of primers. Did not think to thrown them in for the picture. I do store the primers in the wooden box with everything else. I am not concerned with packaged primers setting off packaged powder.

Did not know the old ones had issues. Good to know they were fixed though
 
Great tutorial. I started with a Lee Loader for 30-30 with a can of 3031. Over the years I have gathered so much crap that I "need" for reloading, I am sometimes tempted to just go back to the simple, effective Loaders. I have sort of collected a few over the years, so I would have most of the calibers i shoot. I had a lot of pleasure out of that first set and still have it. I still deprime all my rifle brass with a Lee base and pin like you pictured, and use a Lee hand held primer, the one with a square tray. I also still use Lee dippers to feed my little Lyman digital scale.

I am a plinker, shooting mostly paper at my friend's nice outdoor range. I dig one or two of my milsurp rifles out of the pile and blast off a few reloads, mostly lighter cast loads. I try to keep the brass mated to the rifle so I can get away with a neck size rather than full length. I use mostly Unique or 700X and whatever primers are close at hand.
 
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One other thing to keep in mind, is that after neck sizing for a few firings, the cases may need to be FL sized, which you need a real press and proper dies for.
 
One other thing to keep in mind, is that after neck sizing for a few firings, the cases may need to be FL sized, which you need a real press and proper dies for.

I have been told this before. I have reloaded my 30-06 brass about 5 times now and it still works. When I get to the point I need to full length resize I will just chuck them and get new ones
 
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If your brass is too long take the two part tool. The stick part that is marked 30/06 is a guide and not to be used as measure regardless of what the package may tell you. Give it some spins and whittle down the brass. It probably won’t take much so don’t go overboard. You a running sharp steal over brass in an attempt to take down less than a millimetre

The Lee Case Length Gauges come with a shell holder:

https://leeprecision.com/gage-holder-30-06-sprfld.html

The Lee Case Prep Cutter comes with a lock stud:

https://leeprecision.com/cutter-lock-stud.html

You thread the shell holder onto the lock stud.

In use, you put the case into the stud and shell holder, snug down the shell holder, and then trim with the Case Length Gauge. The pin end of the Case Length Gauge goes through the primer flash hole. The Cutter will stop cutting brass automatically when the Case Length Gauge pin bottoms out on the lock stud.

You can do this by hand but the quickest way is to chuck the lock stud into a drill. Makes for a very effective power trimmer.

When screwing the Case Length Gauge into the Cutter, be sure that the shoulder at the threaded end of the Gauge just touches the Cutter blades. The shoulder should be right up against the blades to set the Gauge at the right depth. You might need some pliers to grip the Gauge so you can screw it into the Cutter. Protect the Gauge from the pliers with a rag or something soft.

I use the Lee gauges and cutters for all of my calibers. My gauges are permanently mounted in their own cutters; I don't swap them around because they can be a pain to unscrew.

To the OP: thanks for posting this. It's really nice to see a detailed post on the Lee Loader. These are very under appreciated tools. They are great way to get started in reloading.
 
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The Lee Case Length Gauges come with a shell holder:

https://leeprecision.com/gage-holder-30-06-sprfld.html

The Lee Case Prep Cutter comes with a lock stud:

https://leeprecision.com/cutter-lock-stud.html

You thread the shell holder onto the lock stud.

In use, you put the case into the stud and shell holder, snug down the shell holder, and then trim with the Case Length Gauge. The pin end of the Case Length Gauge goes through the primer flash hole. The Cutter will stop cutting brass automatically when the Case Length Gauge pin bottoms out on the lock stud.

You can do this by hand but the quickest way is to chuck the lock stud into a drill. Makes for a very effective power trimmer.

When screwing the Case Length Gauge into the Cutter, be sure that the shoulder at the threaded end of the Gauge just touches the Cutter blades. The shoulder should be right up against the blades to set the Gauge at the right depth. You might need some pliers to grip the Gauge so you can screw it into the Cutter. Protect the Gauge from the pliers with a rag or something soft.

I use the Lee gauges and cutters for all of my calibers. My gauges are permanently mounted in their own cutters; I don't swap them around because they can be a pain to unscrew.

To the OP: thanks for posting this. It's really nice to see a detailed post on the Lee Loader. These are very under appreciated tools. They are great way to get started in reloading.

yer wasting your time trying to educate him on the proper use of the Lee case length gauge. I tried on another forum he posted this on but he would rather measure a bunch and take his chances while spreading misinformation.

Hence my popcorn response earlier in the thread.
 
yer wasting your time trying to educate him on the proper use of the Lee case length gauge. I tried on another forum he posted this on but he would rather measure a bunch and take his chances while spreading misinformation.

Hence my popcorn response earlier in the thread.

You seem to quite butt hurt over this.

Two ways of accomplishing the same end goal.

Are you going to rip on me for driving an automatic instead of a manual next?
 
If you shoot semis reloaded cartridges might hang up in the chamber (tight fit) with just neck sized brass being used to reload.
In bolts with a lot of camng leverage there isn't usually a problem.
 
You seem to quite butt hurt over this.

Two ways of accomplishing the same end goal.

Are you going to rip on me for driving an automatic instead of a manual next?

The end goal may be the same, but the method you suggest creates extra steps and the possibility of a variable, namely case length, the same variable the tool was designed to eliminate.
As I stated elsewhere, how you choose to do it is up to you.
You created a decent how to on the Lee Loader, then proceed to give erroneous information regarding the use of the case length gauge.

It is BEGINNERS who will be most likely to follow your guide, the very group who won't know any better. You do a disservice to the new comers to the community by spreading misinformation.
 
It is BEGINNERS who will be most likely to follow your guide, the very group who won't know any better. You do a disservice to the new comers to the community by spreading misinformation.

Thank you for the warning.

I skipped over it when I noticed it was for a hand loader.

I don't think you need to trim the case after once or twice fire. But I'll check it periodically and set them aside when they get too long.

I don't have a trimmer and I see no urgency to get one.
 
Thank you for the warning.

I skipped over it when I noticed it was for a hand loader.

I don't think you need to trim the case after once or twice fire. But I'll check it periodically and set them aside when they get too long.

I don't have a trimmer and I see no urgency to get one.

You are correct. You probably won't have to trim after one or two fires. Checking periodically will be fine.
 
I noticed the pilot and cutter being used without the shell holder and anvil, but I figured that if the OP prefers to do it this way, that's up to him.

A newcomer would figure out the shell holder was needed just from the Lee Precision packaging information anyway.

Don't know why Brother Rockeye is portraying this as a capital crime.

Seems like an abusive overreaction on his part.

The OP is to be commended for taking the time and effort to photograph and produce this tutorial. It takes work and he didn't have to do it.
 
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