I'm getting bored with screwing together the same old stuff....I have actions, barrels and stocks here but I wanna hear from anyone who's shooting a fast twist, high capacity 224 bore....like an 8" or 9" twist 22/6mm or 22/243AI and such....
getting bored
- Thread starter Rembo
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There was an article from South Africa about a .25-06 necked down to .224. They were using it with a bullet that was very similar to the Barnes X, I can't remember the name of the manufacturer, but I think it started with a "G". Anyways, the thing seemed to be quite effective on antelope. There were quite a few pictures of entrance and exit wounds. It was quite impressive.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
1899 said:
Sounds like GS Custom Bullets - and it's worth visiting their site. There is a lot of interesting information to be found there regardless of what part of the shooting game interests you.
I had a 1:7 Gaillard that was very accurate, but I only had it chambered for a light cartridge. The .284 has been successfully necked down to 6.5 and to 6mm, so if you want to experiment with over bore why not create the .224/284 Rembo?
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC
There is something similar already called the 22-243 Middlestead
- Location
- Hillbilly shack in the boonies
22 Cheetah Reloading Data
Bullet (grs.) Powder / (grs.) MV ME Source
50 SP IMR 4064 / 46.0 4285 2040 n/a
52 HP IMR 4064 / 44.0 4135 1970 n/a
55 SP IMR 4350 / 49.0 4090 1990 n/a
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Bullet (grs.) Powder / (grs.) MV ME Source
50 SP IMR 4064 / 46.0 4285 2040 n/a
52 HP IMR 4064 / 44.0 4135 1970 n/a
55 SP IMR 4350 / 49.0 4090 1990 n/a
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Rembo,
I had XR100 in 22/250 squared up and rechambered to 22/243 Middlested. At the same time we fitted a 1-8 twist Lilja barrel and chambered both with the same 254 neck reamer. The idea was to use the Remington barrel as a case forming barrel, then make the switch to fast-twist heavy bullet loads later. The snag came when the fire-forming barrel routinely shot 5 of the fire forming loads into 1/2". Loads in the formed brass are usually in the 2s. 4200 fps 1/2'' loads have more uses than just making noise, so the plan has changed to shooting out the first (1-14) barrel normally, then torching it as a fire-forming barrel when it is good for nothing else. It may be a while before I get to use the rifle as planned.
I did have a fast twist 22/250 that I used with 75 grain bullets for coyote hunting in the wind. That's about every day here. I was happy with the reduced wind drift, but wanted more velocity, hence the Middlested.
I had XR100 in 22/250 squared up and rechambered to 22/243 Middlested. At the same time we fitted a 1-8 twist Lilja barrel and chambered both with the same 254 neck reamer. The idea was to use the Remington barrel as a case forming barrel, then make the switch to fast-twist heavy bullet loads later. The snag came when the fire-forming barrel routinely shot 5 of the fire forming loads into 1/2". Loads in the formed brass are usually in the 2s. 4200 fps 1/2'' loads have more uses than just making noise, so the plan has changed to shooting out the first (1-14) barrel normally, then torching it as a fire-forming barrel when it is good for nothing else. It may be a while before I get to use the rifle as planned.
I did have a fast twist 22/250 that I used with 75 grain bullets for coyote hunting in the wind. That's about every day here.
I was happy with the reduced wind drift, but wanted more velocity, hence the Middlested.
303carbine said:
I have one. Unfortunately with a 1-14 twist, but it's a very flat shooting rifle, nevertheless. Rick, the CHeetah, Middlestead, and 22-6mmAI are very similar, and they are screamers. With a 1-8 barrel, I think they would make a great LR, low recoil rifle. - dan
IIRC, the 22 Cheetah was based on a necked down .308BR case with the small primer? Performance was a little better than the .220 Swift? Basically a great 300 yard varmint cartridge? I wonder how hard it was on barrels, given the Swift's rep for being a barrel burner?
And here is the link to the article:
http://www.gsgroup.co.za/22x64.html
For those of you who won't read the article - max velocity with 40gr bullets was +4800 fps. They settled on a load that gave 4700fps, which was 400fps. faster than the .220 Swift.
.223, 22-250, .220 Swift and .22x64
http://www.gsgroup.co.za/22x64.html
For those of you who won't read the article - max velocity with 40gr bullets was +4800 fps. They settled on a load that gave 4700fps, which was 400fps. faster than the .220 Swift.
.223, 22-250, .220 Swift and .22x64
read a couple items on fast twist 224's today....maybe I'll stick with a 243 bore.....have an extra long 700 here....maybe a 6-06AI?....should get a 'yotes attention ...even thought of rebarreling the Ti to 6mmAI.....but I am doing a 22-250AI for a guy soon,...so I'll have the reamer in hand....hmmmmmm..decisions...decisions....
...even thought of rebarreling the Ti to 6mmAI.....but I am doing a 22-250AI for a guy soon,...so I'll have the reamer in hand....hmmmmmm..decisions...decisions....
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well...a fast twist .224 won't do anything a 9" twist 6mm will do....'cept shoot .224" bullets ....but..they do win in the recoil category,..not that recoil is a problem in these little guns but when you like to see the hits in the scope...you know what I mean.. ....I think Salty nailed it....
....but..they do win in the recoil category,..not that recoil is a problem in these little guns but when you like to see the hits in the scope...you know what I mean.. ....I think Salty nailed it....
