Getting started in IDPA in ontario
- Thread starter sly mantis
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Good enough for me.
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
The ODPL holster course is a recognized course for IDPA.
I believe you are wrong
I don't think IDPA HQ would ever make the NSO course mandatory, US gun culture seems to be that if you've got a holster, then you're holster qualified. Holster certification in general seems to be a Canadian thing...at least in North America
Such a requirement isn't in the rule addendum or rule book, and I haven't seen any announcements on IDPAs website.
While I doubt it will ever become mandatory most of the US clubs I have shot at require some sort of holster/orientation course for IDPA for new shooters. It maybe as formal as a day course and as informal as a 45 minute review of the rules of IDPA followed by demonstrating their ability to draw from a holster under the watchful eye of the MD or a senior SO. The concerns for safety on their ranges is as much an American thing as it is in Canada I can assure you. The video on the IDPA Canada website was produced by my friend Capel aka Hot Brass for that very purpose for shooters in his area.
Take Care
Bob
- Location
- Fort St John B.C.
and yet the safety record of the shooting sports has one of the lowest incidents of accidents or injuries of just about all "recreational" sports....
Steve David
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Oshawa, Ontario
Hence the NSOC or the IPSC Black Badge Course or the PPC course to go over the rules as well as the proper and safe use of a handgun and holster, one of the duties of an IDPA SO.
So using my club as an example, you think it's fine I just let anybody with a PAL and no experience with a holster just come out and shoot my course of fire? Not trying to start a storm just curious if that's what you mean.
My take on it is that as long as the four universal rules of gun safety are followed it shouldn't matter if your pistol is on a bench or in a holster.
That said... The dismal safety disapline that abounds has convinced me that yes... It seems some sort of holster use training is wise
THe IDPA NSO course and the Black Badge Course from IPSC involves not only safe handling of a firearm but an explanation of the rules of the two games.
This has nothing to do about "Nanny Statism`as you suggest but everything to do with ensuring to the best of our ability our sports are conducted in a safe environment for the participants. Nothing more, nothing less. For that we offer no apology.
Too, it goes without saying that in order to participate in a sport such as IDPA or IPSC a base course in the rules and how the games are played might be useful.
Take Care
Bob
Exactly Bob. I would not want to be SOing someone and explaining rules and procedures at the same time. That to me can cause safety issues. Sure someone who takes an NSO will have to be reminded of things from time to time but a completely green IDPA shooter is not someone I would want to SO.
stormbringer
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- S.W. Ontario
I have nothing against training; however, I disagree with it being compulsory.
You aren't required to go to a driving school in order to get a drivers' licence. You only have to demonstrate proficiency at the wheel.
Drawing from a holster and moving with a loaded firearm is not 'rocket surgery'. A competitor just has to keep the gun pointed in a safe direction and keep their finger off the trigger until the sights are on the target. And every shooter gets their own personal RO/SO to supervise them while they do!
As for the rules of the game, a person can read the rule book and/or watch someone negotiate a course of fire before attempting it themselves and do just fine; particularly in IDPA where the CoF is more choreographed than say in IPSC/USPSA. They will probably go slower than the more experienced shooters but will more than likely do it safely. In fact, this happens all the time at most of the matches in the US and more than a few in Canada.
IIRC, the only time in Canada that an IDPA shooter had an ND that resulted in personal injury was in Chilliwack a few years ago and it was by an SO instructor that was certified by none other than Canuck44!
You aren't required to go to a driving school in order to get a drivers' licence. You only have to demonstrate proficiency at the wheel.
Drawing from a holster and moving with a loaded firearm is not 'rocket surgery'. A competitor just has to keep the gun pointed in a safe direction and keep their finger off the trigger until the sights are on the target. And every shooter gets their own personal RO/SO to supervise them while they do!
As for the rules of the game, a person can read the rule book and/or watch someone negotiate a course of fire before attempting it themselves and do just fine; particularly in IDPA where the CoF is more choreographed than say in IPSC/USPSA. They will probably go slower than the more experienced shooters but will more than likely do it safely. In fact, this happens all the time at most of the matches in the US and more than a few in Canada.
IIRC, the only time in Canada that an IDPA shooter had an ND that resulted in personal injury was in Chilliwack a few years ago and it was by an SO instructor that was certified by none other than Canuck44!
I agree (except your driving example doesn't help your case).
Rules and spirit of IDPA can be learned by reading the rule book and getting tips from other shooters. Every match I have been too people are always willing to go over the rules for a newbie.
As for safety, I would never say that people should be denied a safety course, quite the opposite. If you would like a safety course, by all means, participate. But it shouldn't be mandatory.
Notwithstanding, that if a shooter gets DQ'd more than once, they should be required to complete a safety course.
Most probably wouldn't be surprised to learn this.....since I don't even agree with firearms licensing.
IIRC, the only time in Canada that an IDPA shooter had an ND that resulted in personal injury was in Chilliwack a few years ago and it was by an SO instructor that was certified by none other than Canuck44!
Don't agree with you on this on, didn't really need to go there.
