Gewehr 1888

Here are some pictures of my Erfurt 1890, a beautiful rifle that was attached to the 95th Infantry recruiting depot located in Gotha, Germany. The recruiting depot mark is very special to me because my great grandfather was assigned to a recruiting depot during the mid WW1 years.

She was given to the Turks sometime during WW1 and had the rear sight graduations ground off and Turkish Arabic numbers applied. After that, she was never sent back to the arsenal and did god knows what with the Turks. My understanding is that Gewehr 88s served with the Turks as training rifles right up to the 1970s...talk about a service rifle!

The barrel, as previously mentioned, is still original to the rifle from her time in Germany. I have include a few pictures to give you all an idea of the difference between Gewehr 88 barrel and a stepped Gewehr 98 barrel.

Bore is very good too and I can't wait until I can get her out the to range and run a report on how she shoots (which should be in a few weeks once time permits).

I am currently picking up a Danzig 1891 that went the same route as my Erfurt though she does not sport any matching unit markings.

I have also attached some pictures showing the attachment of a Seitengewehr 71 bayonet on the rifle. These bayonets, as well as a mulitude of others, were commonly re-issued with Gewehr 88s though the official one was the Seitengewehr 71/84. She becomes muzzle heavy when the S.71 bayonet is mounted.

Note: In the image showing the left side of the rear sight base, you will see "7.91". This is the German land diameter measurement as measured back in 1890. The critical part here is that the barrel jacket must match the receiver (along with the original matching barrel) for this measurement to hold true. In my case, all the critical parts match. My bore slug turned out the same measurement as well.

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For the barrel comparison:

Note: Notice the Turkish military proofs right alongside the German proofs on the underside of the barrel for the Gewehr 88. Have a look at the sheer number of inspector stamps on the underside of the barrel, it will just blow your mind (pardon the pun).

Gewehr 88

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Gewehr 98

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I hope these pictures make others wish to get into Gewehr 88 collecting and also serve to help explain the technical differences between her and her sister rifle, the Gewehr 98.
 
If that sweetheart was mine, and there was any doubts about shooting modern ammo, I would just keep her as a wallhanger.(I have a few like that already, they speak volumes without firing them IMO!) You have an excellent example of a G88 in your hands! LOVE the side mounted bayonet as well, must have been a fearsome sight to have that coming at you.....
 
Well I can't stop you from wall hanging the rifle but if you wish to take her to the range, I am happy to provide my load.

Hornady makes .321" diameter bullets that can be used in 8mm Mauser brass. Combine those two with Winchester large rifle primers and the mild load that Drachenblut and I came up with, and you should be fine.

I will be more than happy to post the range results as soon as I can.

For those interested in the load data:

-170gr Hornady Round nose (lead tip) .321" diameter
-42.0 grains of IMR 4064
-Winchester large rifle primers
-Remington brass 8mm Mauser
-Case Overall Length: 2.83"
 
Can one of you experienced GEW88 owners give me step-by-step instructions on how to properly disassemble a GEW88? I don't want to guess. Thanks in advance.

[[edit: never mind, figured it out :)]]
 
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Here's my 1891 Loewe, knicknamed "Ludwig": :)

It took a massive amount of elbow grease, plus a good kerosene soak and boiling water treatment to all metal parts, to get this rifle all clean and shiney -- dried cosmoline and grunge everywhere, though surprizingly no rust. It was obviously unfired prior to going into Turk arsenal storage. The bolt is very nice and clean with little to no signs of wear, and is all matching (Czech made, Turk markings). The barrel, barrel shroud, receiver, stock, butt plate, and all but 1 screw = match. There are NO Turk markings on the receiver or barrel, only the bolt assembly. The barrel bands closely match as they are from the 90th Reserve Regiment, but don't seem to match the rifle. The trigger assembly does not match, but is in excellent condition and is very crisp and true. The barrel shroud is in excellent condition, all bluing intact (probably re-blued at some point by the Turks) and is very shiney on the inside -- something short of a miracle as rust was a problem "back in the day". The rifling looks good and is nice and shiney. This GEW 88 has the original German barrel. It appears the Turks took really good care of their rifles to ensure proper function right up to the end of their active service -- in the 1970's (used as training rifles)!! I decided not to strip the furniture in order for it to hold its value, I did, however, give it a good oil soap cleaning followed by a few coats of tung oil. You wouldn't believe the filth that came off the stock (see before and after photos below). The stock is in excellent shape, but I did have to make one small inconspicuous repair to a 1 1/2 inch long shallow crack orginiating from the rear trigger recess area, as I didn't want it spreading and becoming a problem while shooting it. Yes, its a shooter not a wall ornament! Here she is:

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BUMP!

A few of you here have seen photos of my 1890 Amberg Gew 88. It looks EXACTLY like Nabs but with a different unit on the bands. I finally got around to slugging the barrel and every time I hammered the slug out of the barrel, it is smooth! There is plenty of rifling but the slugs don't really seem to pick it up. When I measured the slug at the highest points I could find, one was .318 at its widest and the other slug was .321 at the widest point I could find.

All that said, it took me at least 20 measurements to even find a point that was above .318.

The barrel, receiver and barrel shroud all match and the rear sight is stamped 7,91. Any ideas what size rounds I should use?
 
.318" bores are tricky in themselves. Three of my 88s came out to .321".

I took the three of them to the range this past weekend and all three shot quite well with .323" hand loads. I found there was a bit more kick then my Gewehr 98s and a bit more lead fouling build up as well.

I'll have some pictures and a report up very soon.
 
.318" bores are tricky in themselves. Three of my 88s came out to .321".

I took the three of them to the range this past weekend and all three shot quite well with .323" hand loads. I'll have some pictures and a report up very soon.

Definitely! A range report on something other then my Soviet stuff will be a nice change of pace :p:p
 
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