Glock 17 or Baby Eagle?

If you plan to be a range shooter, the P226 is perfect. The ergos are tops, the stock sight is fast and "intuitive". It says "quality". The DA first shot is smooth and the follow-up SA shots are sweet. It's heavy compared to a Glock. This is can be an advantage in range shooting.

The P226 is excellent for competition, if you don't mind the DA first shot and the decocker. These issues will become second nature with practice.
The P226 doesn't have a trigger safety, but this is not an issue with range shooting.

(Now that I follow Glock on Googlenews, I'm already noting ADs with law enforcement Glocks. However, again, if one keeps his Glock away from his three-year-old, proves it safe before cleaning, and uses a decent holster, safety is assured.)

If you plan to carry, consider the Glock. I wasn't a Glock fan until I looked at the lower prices (I bought two--one for me and one for my son) the easy availability of parts and ease of self-service. The Glock will be my carry gun. I don't want to have to think about an external safety, a decocker, two different trigger actions.

I have a feeling that Glock has been quietly improving its trigger feel over the last few years. When I first picked up a Glock, the trigger was gritty and the "bump" irritated my finger pad. The G22 I bought was manufactured in 2007. The trigger is smooth, much less gritty feeling or not gritty at all, and, for some reason, I don't notice the "bump"--even after 150 rounds.

The Glock is very lightweight compared to the P226 or, say, a 1911. This is an important consideration for concealed carry all day.

Also, a Glock is very, very easy to maintain. I have to grin when I look at stamped parts in a Glock, but they won't snap like the MIM parts in a couple of guns I've owned. It is very easy to clean. I can clean a Glock in a fraction of the time it takes to clean out the nooks and crannies in more traditional designs. And a field strip takes a few seconds.

I just received my Kramer IWB #3. It hides a Glock even under a dark t-shirt and it's very comfortable. So, now, for me, the thinness advantage of carrying a concealed 1911 is just about gone.

One more thing about the grip angle debate. Lay a P226 down on its side. Put a Glock 17 or 22 on top of it. You'll be surprised.
 
vancityguy said:
i really don't like the look of the m&p at all. i think if i am going to go polymer it will be the glock 17. i read so much about the grip on the g17's being poor, but it really didn't feel that bad to me to be honest.
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I understand that....but "looks" can be very beguiling in guns, cars and wimmin. Full of promise, but no delivery.
You cannot judge the "feel" of a pistol in a gunshop, nor can you judge the feel of the trigger in the gunshop. You have to actually shoot the pistol.
A G17 is an excellent choice in a polymer pistol. A gazillion customers can't be wrong. However, imho there are now better choices out there for the recreational and competition shooter....the M&P being one of them.
As an aside, .40cal S&W is the way to go as well. ;) Again, it gives you more choices than 9mm Luger.
 
Squirrley11 said:
but if you have ever owned of driven a german car you would understand :)
And I dont mean the peoples car (VW) ;)
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Oh, please.....spare me. :rolleyes::p If you honestly....honestly believe that German cars possess some sort of mystical quality, spend some time in a Benz, BMW or Audi service department and talk to the techs..... :redface: Yes, they score highly on JD Powers surveys and others, but who would ever admit that they spent a king's ransom on a POS?

Squirrley11 said:
And I agree with pistols between the sig and the m&p I like shooting my m&p because its what I carry... but the sig is far better made u can tell just buy cocking them or feeling how they shoot.
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Yes, the M&P will be the wave of the future....S&W will ensure that. Sig's do have a nice, quality "feel" about them, but the 9mm is boring and the .40 is not very accurate. Yes, I know that this will invite all sorts of Sig P226 owners to assure me that they get 1" groups at 50 yards with their .40's, but I've yet to see real evidence of that. I like a pistol that does EVERYTHING well. Not being afraid to take it out of the safe is one of the criteria.

Squirrley11 said:
DEUTSCHLAND all the way haha!
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HA.....Wanna make it 3 - 0 ? :p:D (j/k)
 
The Baby Eagle I owned was very accurate and had a beautiful trigger out of the box. I sold it fairly quickly because parts and accessories were hard to find for it. It didn't fill me with much confidence when the roll pin holding the trigger starting to drift out of it. Other people I know who own them have had different roll pins drift out on them. I'm sure it's an easy fix and the blue Loc-tite which I was using may have been the wrong Loc-tite to use but what kind of 'service pistol' has roll pins drifting out on them?

I, also, owned a MP9 which was a nice pistol with excellent sights but I sold it shortly after I bought it as well. I enjoyed shooting my Glock 17 more and was more accurate with it especially during rapid fire strings. I don't really have anything negative to say about it other than the fit and finish wasn't as nice as my Glock 17. This is nit picking but field stripping required the extra step of lifting the sear deactivation lever which I thought was idiotic.

Anyhow, if it's only between the Baby Eagle and Glock 17. I'd go with the Glock 17. If you willing to throw the Sig 226 into the mix then, for me, it's a no-brainer, go for the Sig 226!!
 
Six Star said:
Oh, please.....spare me. :rolleyes::p If you honestly....honestly believe that German cars possess some sort of mystical quality, spend some time in a Benz, BMW or Audi service department and talk to the techs..... :redface: Yes, they score highly on JD Powers surveys and others, but who would ever admit that they spent a king's ransom on a POS?QUOTE]


Well I will tell you this much my oil changes cost an arm and a leg so that must mean its good! and it takes some sort of computer enginering degree to do anything to it so clearly its better than my old chyrsler i could just hit hard with the wrench to fix it...haha

just kidding

but like anything german made... you can just get a quality feel from it when you compare it to anything else... they most likely make everything heavy to feel like this haha...

but now we are getting off topic... I think that sig is desperatly trying to make a new product to compete with other polymere frame guns... not sure how the p250 stacks up but who knows what the future will bring... I will laugh the day sig make a stricker fired pistol... its bound to happen!
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Six Star said:
Oh, please.....spare me. :rolleyes::p If you honestly....honestly believe that German cars possess some sort of mystical quality, spend some time in a Benz, BMW or Audi service department and talk to the techs..... :redface:
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Duh. If you spend some time at a service department of any car dealership, regardless of the brand, you will hear all sorts of stories. That's because techs get paid to work on broken cars, not perfectly fine ones.
 
I was at the range today and another member came by and he had a baby eagle. I was pretty impressed but I dont think I would pay for one. AS for glocks, if you can get past the 2X4 look it is probably the easiest gun you can find. And everyone and their mom makes stuff that will fit a glock. Easy to find stuff for.
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Here is a little Glock #### of my G17.

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^ That is 5000 rounds in one month. Figured id save them to reload.

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I think the only thing left stock on this is the frame, slide and barrel. LOL
 
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