Glock 22 or Glock 17

How about the tea with some Rye Whiskey (my favorite medicine after long winter shift)?
I can do cold beer as well :)

It's june boss, little not wintery out there. I have asked mildot on the reliability differences he is a certified glock armourer. maybe he can chime in.

And on a sidenote I didn't start any arguement, I just posted a fact. And you jumped down my gully like I hurt your daughter or something.
 
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And on a sidenote I didn't start any arguement, I just posted a fact.

I asked You to post a fact, but instead You gave us nothing but your opinion.
There is a significant difference between the fact and opinion.
Opinions are like as...oles, everyone has one...and some people are even ready to share theirs.
Time to learn the difference between these two.
 
I asked You to post a fact, but instead You gave us nothing but your opinion.
There is a significant difference between the fact and opinion.
Opinions are like as...oles, everyone has one...and some people are even ready to share theirs.
Time to learn the difference between these two.

Again lets look at the fact. Dimensionally the g22 and the g17 are identical. Or do I need to post you to the official glock website? 40 is a fatter caliber to 9mm, so more material has to be removed. And 40s&w is a high pressure cartridge. 35000psi max SAAMI just like 9mm, only the pistol now has less material to work with, so less material to cope with the same pressure over a larger surface area. Let's use that little lightbulb in your head. It has to less to work with and more to deal with, yes I am totally talking out of my ass. LOL
 
Well, if this is so easy, You shouldn't have a problem to present us with one, single evidence of totally worn out Glock 22.
Go ahead.
To particularize is the alone distinction of merit.
After all this is the most popular LE handgun on this continent.
It's time to end this kindergarten BS.
It will probably cost You $30k in ammo to sheared off the barrel lug on Glock.
If You will ever accomplish that, Glock will replace the barrel.
I'm sure this is a real problem for most of us here.
Thanks for sharing.
 
Well, if this is so easy, You shouldn't have a problem to present us with one, single evidence of totally worn out Glock 22.
Go ahead.
To particularize is the alone distinction of merit.
After all this is the most popular LE handgun on this continent.
It's time to end this kindergarten BS.
It will probably cost You $30k in ammo to sheared off the barrel lug on Glock.
I'm sure this is a real problem for most of us here.
Thanks for sharing.

When did I say it would be easy? Simple maths is on my side. Cut it how you want the 17 will outlast a 22, it's only logical, and cost less for ammo in the process. You have yet posted anything that says otherwise so I'm not sure why you have a dildo stuck up your ass about this. Oh and of course politics have nothing to do with this and le agencies always pick the ultimate performer right? Haha. Enjoy the rest of your night, where do I send these donuts to?


 
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Cut it how you want the 17 will outlast a 22, it's only logical, and cost less for ammo in the process.



My math says, that if You need more of the cheaper ammo or less of the more expansive one to accomplish the same effect You still must pay pretty much the same price.
Posting the video from the biggest clown on the internet only confirms your level of the expertise on the subject.
 
My math says, that if You need more of the cheaper ammo or less of the more expansive one to accomplish the same effect You still must pay pretty much the same price.
Posting the video from the biggest clown on the internet only confirms your level of the expertise on the subject.

Really can you show me the math? Last I checked a poor shot placement on a 40 would have the same effect as a poor shot placement with a 9mm. Can a 40 go through armour? No? Huh, what is that big advantage in the 40 again? Show me the statistics that prove that the 40 has that mythical one stop shot that the 9 doesn't. Sure 40 is grossly overused by le agencies, how many tier on sf run 40s? Whether on their pistols or on their smgs, NONE.

40s provide a very minimal gain in any kind of ballistics for increased snappiness from recoil, higher expense reduced rount capacity, and ultimately reduced reliability. Show me where a 40 solved a problem that a 9mm couldn't. You can't because there is no such proof. Carry on enjoy those donuts boss.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=129642

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887
 
40 S&W has better stopping power, 9mm is easy to control and get back on target.

SF units use 9mm for afew reasons, it is the NATO standard, its easy to get, its easy to shoot fast follow up shots, great mag cap and it works. Plus two 9mm holes beats one 45ACP hole any day IMO.

Since we live in Canada and can only use handguns for target shooting, I would pick 9mm. Nothing wrong with the G22 but I would rather have the easyier to shoot G17.
 
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40 S&W has better stopping power, 9mm is easy to control and get back on target.

SF units use 9mm for afew reasons, it is the NATO standard, its easy to get, its easy to shoot fast follow up shots, great mag cap and it works.

Since we live in Canada and can only use handguns for target shooting, I would pick 9mm. Nothing wrong with the G22 but I would rather have the easyier to shoot G17.

That has never been proven, after that fbi shootout, a lot of agencies went over to the promised halo cartridge with the 40, and I have yet see a scenario that got shown where the 40 legitimately demonstrated this much hyped yet never proven stopping power.
 
That has never been proven, after that fbi shootout, a lot of agencies went over to the promised halo cartridge with the 40, and I have yet see a scenario that got shown where the 40 legitimately demonstrated this much hyped yet never proven stopping power.

I should of said greater ft lbs which will cause greater damage if you compare 9mm FMJ with 40 FMJ. In saying that its not much more "barely 50 ft lbs more" not enough IMO to switch from 9mm to 40S&W.

I do beleave 40S&W is a feel better cal. much like 6.8 for ARs. Poor training leads to LE/Mil members missing or not hitting vital areas of the bad guy and then blaming it on the round. You can shoot a guy in the gut with a 44mag and not drop him, but shoot him in the spine with a 22lr he will drop him like a sack of potatos.
 
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Again lets look at the fact. Dimensionally the g22 and the g17 are identical. Or do I need to post you to the official glock website? 40 is a fatter caliber to 9mm, so more material has to be removed. And 40s&w is a high pressure cartridge. 35000psi max SAAMI just like 9mm, only the pistol now has less material to work with, so less material to cope with the same pressure over a larger surface area. Let's use that little lightbulb in your head. It has to less to work with and more to deal with, yes I am totally talking out of my ass. LOL

LOL indeed. If they are identical, then why You need to remove some material from the frame of G22?
Actually G22 is a bit heavier than G17 (645g vs 625g).
If You will ever try these guns FOR REAL, I mean touch them instead of reading about them on the internet, You'll probably discover that magazine from G17 fits into G22 and vice versa.
No material was removed.
The only bulb flashing right now is the BS alarm.
:)
 
LOL indeed. If they are identical, then why You need to remove some material from the frame of G22?
Actually G22 is a bit heavier than G17 (645g vs 625g).
If You will ever try these guns FOR REAL, I mean touch them instead of reading about them on the internet, You'll probably discover that magazine from G17 fits into G22 and vice versa.
No material was removed.
The only bulb flashing right now is the BS alarm.
:)

Oh aren't you precious the first gun I shot was TDCs g17. And since you know so much perhaps you can tell us the thickness of the chamber is, the the outer diameter subtracted from the inside diameter. 10 bucks says it's thinner.
 
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G22 with 40-9 gives you both option. Find my G22 with 40-9 and G17 is about same accuracy. Can shoot lead in 40-9.

Don't like the snappy G22 .40 . Also prefer 1911 over G21.
 
I own 2 glocks, both are 17's :)

I would like to take this moment to thank all the 40 shooters for leaving all that brass I have been picking up, seems there are swage dies to make them into .45 casings for my 1911! And I intend to make a lot of .45 bullets this winter :evil:
 
Oh aren't you precious the first gun I shot was TDCs g17. And since you know so much perhaps you can tell us the thickness of the chamber is, the the outer diameter subtracted from the inside diameter. 10 bucks says it's thinner.

So, again would You care to explain to us how one "removes the material" from the gun and makes it heavier at the same time?
Precious it is.
I know.
It doesn't hurt.
Yet, it's quite visible.
 
Just get the Glock 22 and get the conversion barrel. Why spend money on 2 guns when you can buy one, spend 200 bucks and basically have two.
It takes 10 seconds to swap a barrel on a glock. Another good point burnaby mentioned is that with the Lone Wolf you can shoot lead ammunition through it.
 
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