It's just sooo much easier if they have them ready to go......I hate hassles..lol
Glock trying to force Canadian prices up?
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It's just sooo much easier if they have them ready to go......I hate hassles..lol
Stevo
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Mark,
Can you confirm that Police Ordnance is indeed the Canadian Glock distributor?
I think emails to the distributor advising that an $800 Glock is not going to sell worth a damn when an M&P is $150 (or more) less might have more effect. I bought two pistols from PO on the Mil/LEO discount and I won't be buying any more.
Can you confirm that Police Ordnance is indeed the Canadian Glock distributor?
I think emails to the distributor advising that an $800 Glock is not going to sell worth a damn when an M&P is $150 (or more) less might have more effect. I bought two pistols from PO on the Mil/LEO discount and I won't be buying any more.
The people to ask that question are Glock themselves... they can tell you who their authorized Canadian Distributor is or if they have more than one.
Steve David
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Hold on a second, I was under the impression that Police Ordnance is only the LE Canadian Distributor.
You know what, I have had several Glocks, and I do like them and they are a fantastic product, but in my humble opinion, there is a new gun on the scene that is just as good and even cheaper and offering 2 free extra mags and a factory rebate, hello Smith & Wesson M&P.
I do not own one, but I have shot one and it is a super gun and again in my opinion, is a better feeling gun then the Glock. It sounds to me like Glock has let their popularity go to their heads, and as it has been said already, there is no reason that the Glock should cost that much more here then in the US, or why a Police Officer should get a better deal then a civilian.
Like I said, M&P, I think I am going trade in some polymer.
Oh and, what about the XD......................!
You know what, I have had several Glocks, and I do like them and they are a fantastic product, but in my humble opinion, there is a new gun on the scene that is just as good and even cheaper and offering 2 free extra mags and a factory rebate, hello Smith & Wesson M&P.
I do not own one, but I have shot one and it is a super gun and again in my opinion, is a better feeling gun then the Glock. It sounds to me like Glock has let their popularity go to their heads, and as it has been said already, there is no reason that the Glock should cost that much more here then in the US, or why a Police Officer should get a better deal then a civilian.
Like I said, M&P, I think I am going trade in some polymer.
Oh and, what about the XD......................!
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Police Ordnance is now both the LEO and Civilian distributor for Canada.
I'll state up front that I'm biased here for two reasons.
1) I've counted Brian as a friend for better than 15 years.
2) As much as I've tried, I just can't love the Glock.
I'll leave it to Brian to jump in (which he most likely won't as he's not a member here), but from what I've heard him say about his relationship with Glock, there isn't a whole lot of discussion with them. Glock is somewhat like dealing with Walmart. They set the terms. You either abide by them and keep the contract, or you don't.
At the time, he was speaking about the first responder promotion. He didn't have a choice as to offer it or not. He didn't have any say in who got the discount. Glock set the terms and that was that.
I have no idea if PO have anything to do with the current situation Mark is dealing with. If you have any idea as to how much product goes through that company, I don't know if PO would actually notice the difference.
Please feel encouraged to write and E-mail your displeasure. At worst, PO will be deleting a ton of e-mail. At best, they may see a better price structure.
Stevo
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Well, I'm biased too. I love my Glocks and have had fantastic service from PO as well.
However......unless Glock is charging PO an unreasonably high wholesale price, or telling them what price they can sell at, then PO is directly responsible for wholesale/retail prices in Canada.
Like I said, I love Glocks and have had great service from PO, but I won't purchase another pistol that has the price artificially inflated, regardless of where the inflation is coming from.
However......unless Glock is charging PO an unreasonably high wholesale price, or telling them what price they can sell at, then PO is directly responsible for wholesale/retail prices in Canada.
Like I said, I love Glocks and have had great service from PO, but I won't purchase another pistol that has the price artificially inflated, regardless of where the inflation is coming from.
Then you're pretty much restricted to Norinco purchases, and even those have a nice margin.
My impression is that Glock set the price lists. I don't believe PO have much discretion in pricing, just thier terms with dealers. The only thing I do know is Brian expressed shock at the difference between the civilian and LEO pricing. And for those who will inevitably ask, Glock do seem to track serial numbers of there LEO guns and demand accountability from the distributors. My understanding is that any distributor who blends the lines will loose the contract quicly.
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Stevo
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I think you've missed my point. I'm not saying that manufacturers/distributors/dealers shouldn't be making a profit. I'm saying that a Glock that retails for $500 in the US doesn't sell for $800 in Canada without someone making a #### pile of extra money from it.
I've got no problem paying a premium equal to the costs of import and exchange rate.
Welcome to the Canadian retails monopoly system.
Dude in G.P.
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Well, i guess everyone can do the "Canadian" thing... bend over and take it in the ass.
as to the Norinco comment, have you checked the prices on M&P's yet?
as to the Norinco comment, have you checked the prices on M&P's yet?
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Same price spread for desert eagles down south, $1200 there $2000 up here. Isn't it great being a Canadian consumer
RevolverRodger
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Time for companies to import directly from europe. With all their ####ed up laws Us will not be exporting any guns. Time to get the supply from somewhere else.
agent_mango
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Strongly worded email sent to the Glock employee.
People pay what they can bear because that's just how it is. That doesn't mean we shouldn't hope for something better, something closer to what we see in the US.
667, consumers whining is part of the lovely game of capatilism. We whine to let the companies know they are being douchebags, and we whine by looking into S&W M&Ps. And while Glock probably doesn't care about the relatively small Canadian market that much, it's obviously worth enough of their time to keep selling Glocks to us at inflated prices.
People pay what they can bear because that's just how it is. That doesn't mean we shouldn't hope for something better, something closer to what we see in the US.
667, consumers whining is part of the lovely game of capatilism. We whine to let the companies know they are being douchebags, and we whine by looking into S&W M&Ps. And while Glock probably doesn't care about the relatively small Canadian market that much, it's obviously worth enough of their time to keep selling Glocks to us at inflated prices.
Max Owner
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Ignore 667.
Changes come about by people who are fed up and take a stand.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Changes come about by people who are fed up and take a stand.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
CZ85Combat
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Market is too small
Stevo..let us take your example, gun that sells for 500 in US and 800 in Canada.
500US @ 1.04 exchange = 520.00
GST @ 1.06 = 31.20
Brokerage/Customs = 75.00(on a good day)
shipping = 55.00 (if lucky)
time to register in Canada= 75.00
A Total of $756.20
this doesnt count the rent, annual license fees with CFO, overhead expenses
So now you tell me if you can run a business on $43.80 is this what you call a S***t load of cash.
Why would a CDN Dealer be paying US retail for glocks????????
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