Good .38 Rimfire Work around

I have a bunch of orignal 38 Rf ammo its great fun to shoot as its the BP stuff most went off to.
I have a few left im gona keep to go with a 38 Rf H&A spur trigger revolver i have.
I see the 38 Rf ammo at gun shows a fair bit, more of it around here than 32 Rf .
 
I have a bunch of orignal 38 Rf ammo its great fun to shoot as its the BP stuff most went off to.
I have a few left im gona keep to go with a 38 Rf H&A spur trigger revolver i have.
I see the 38 Rf ammo at gun shows a fair bit, more of it around here than 32 Rf .

Well hopefully mine works as well as yours did, the cases still look brand new not a spec on them, they were obviously stored very well, most have H head stamps. We'll see.

I'v had pretty good luck with the old .32 rimfire ammo I'v had 99.8% ignition rate, the Navy Arms stuff is obviously more reliable and I have a few boxes of it but I'll save it for now.

Navy Arms told me they expect to do another run of .32RF and possible other old RF cals as well in the next couple of years.
 
Well hopefully mine works as well as yours did, the cases still look brand new not a spec on them, they were obviously stored very well, most have H head stamps. We'll see.

I'v had pretty good luck with the old .32 rimfire ammo I'v had 99.8% ignition rate, the Navy Arms stuff is obviously more reliable and I have a few boxes of it but I'll save it for now.

Navy Arms told me they expect to do another run of .32RF and possible other old RF cals as well in the next couple of years.

They sound better than mine, alot cleaner!
Heres a tip if they dont go off the frist time, turn them so the fireing pin hits in another spot 7 times outa 10 they will then go off.
 
I used the 9mm flobert method.

The way I did it was to use 9mm flobert acorns, CB's or BB's and cut some brass tubing I gto from the lcoal hobby store. Epoxy the acorn into one end of the tubing (take the lead ball out of the BB's) and load with powder and a heeled 38 colt bullet. Done!

The other way was to use the flobert shot cartridges (way easier to get - Rainer can get em for ya at a good price) I unload the cartridge, cut it down and do the same thing as above. The 9mm flobert is a bit smaller than the 38RF so the case by itself is sloppy in the chamber but if you stick it into a 3/8" od brass tube (hobby shop) you get the propper OD for the 38 rf.

I liked using the flobert method because you don't have to worry about offset 22 blanks.
 
I used the 9mm flobert method.

The way I did it was to use 9mm flobert acorns, CB's or BB's and cut some brass tubing I gto from the lcoal hobby store. Epoxy the acorn into one end of the tubing (take the lead ball out of the BB's) and load with powder and a heeled 38 colt bullet. Done!

The other way was to use the flobert shot cartridges (way easier to get - Rainer can get em for ya at a good price) I unload the cartridge, cut it down and do the same thing as above. The 9mm flobert is a bit smaller than the 38RF so the case by itself is sloppy in the chamber but if you stick it into a 3/8" od brass tube (hobby shop) you get the propper OD for the 38 rf.

I liked using the flobert method because you don't have to worry about offset 22 blanks.

Thanks sportee, thats some good information!.
 
I used the 9mm flobert method.

The way I did it was to use 9mm flobert acorns, CB's or BB's and cut some brass tubing I gto from the lcoal hobby store. Epoxy the acorn into one end of the tubing (take the lead ball out of the BB's) and load with powder and a heeled 38 colt bullet. Done!

The other way was to use the flobert shot cartridges (way easier to get - Rainer can get em for ya at a good price) I unload the cartridge, cut it down and do the same thing as above. The 9mm flobert is a bit smaller than the 38RF so the case by itself is sloppy in the chamber but if you stick it into a 3/8" od brass tube (hobby shop) you get the propper OD for the 38 rf.

I liked using the flobert method because you don't have to worry about offset 22 blanks.


Who is Rainer? Contact info? tks
 
This is an old thread, but I'm kind of kicking around the idea of using an RWS 9mm flobert short round for the round ball shot. Using this live but empty case as a mere primer. Then muzzleloading into the cylinder, 'loose' BP in front, topped off with a round ball and crisco or it's equilavant, just like a cap&ball sixgun. Only hitch I can foresee is the loose fit of the short 9mm case. Maybe a wrap of tape or paper for a tighter fit maybe? Maybe even 000 buckshot pellets for a .36 calibre projectile. (looks like that's too loose, got to find .375 RB)
Won't be uber fast reloads, but could be fun at the range.
 
Let me know how that goes, Currently I have about 250 rounds of factory .38RF shorts so plenty of cases to use over again.... I'v successfully reloaded cases using red bird match tips.

I'm going to buy some HC collections reloadables eventually, I really enjoy shooting .38 Rimfire, its a fun little cartridge.
 
Let me know how that goes, Currently I have about 250 rounds of factory .38RF shorts so plenty of cases to use over again.... I'v successfully reloaded cases using red bird match tips.

I'm going to buy some HC collections reloadables eventually, I really enjoy shooting .38 Rimfire, its a fun little cartridge.
Will do buddy. Looks like I'm going to phone P&D tomorrow to order some Hornday round ball.

Cheers!
 
.356 wrapped in paper might give you some options. IMHO paper patching would make alot of our reloading jobs easier as far as component sourcing goes.
 
I have several old revolvers in .380, some need a .356 bullet, some a .376, just make sure you measure the bore, if you decide to reload, for rimfire you can first "load" the Hornady round ball and then place a Hilti 27 into the hole you drilled, just make it the same size as the 27 Hilti, so it can be put in without force but coat it with nail polish when you seat it. That way your loading is save and the 27 Hilti comes out easily after firing. The Hilti 27 comes with powder and primer (start with the lowest rated one from Rona or Home Depot) and can be placed center.
 
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Okay, this was not a blackpowder workaround.
I decided to try smokeless instead. Using these Dynamit Nobel 9mm acorn BB caps, I pried up each BB with a pair of needlenose pliers.
Then measured out 2.0 grains of Red Dot powder for each cartridge. Putting the powder in and keeping it there was kind of tricky as one cannot get a firm grasp on each tiny 9mm case. I pushed the empty case into the bottom of a standard funnel, that all of us reloaders are well acquainted with. Then used a foamy earplug to hold it in place and poured the measured charge into the case. Carefully I lowered each case ensuring my fingertips grasped it before it could fall out spilling the tiny charge.
Then it was a simple matter of replacing each "BB cap" and half-ass crimping it using the same pliers to gently tap the soft lead ball back into place.
The next matter to deal with was reliable ignition. As this was a constant headache before. To resolve this I took .22 calibre cleaning patches, and these cotton wipes just over one half inch by one half inch, were perfectly fitting to place over each charge hole of the cylinder and then seat a newly 'handloaded' round into place.
This kept the loose fitting 9mm rimfire case from moving around and the hammer could strike it better, without loosing steam, so to speak.
I looked really silly in retrospect, wearing canvas workgloves along with my safety glasses and a hat for the first shot. But this is untrod ground with an antique firearm. For the first shot I turned my face away, and shot it into the ground underneath the target, but I had ignition!
I did loose one charge, as the makeshift crimp did not hold it in place. But at 7 yards, after a sufficient bang, there were two holes on the target out of the four, and one I fired dilerberately into the ground. Not too bad for the first try I think!

The next four were oddly placed into the upper LH corner of the target.
Of the last two shots, one went who knows where, and the last shot is the one closest to the bullseye. Note it did not have sufficient power to bust through into the 3/4 inch plywood board and it must have bounced back into the grass on the range.
This was common with the original factory 9mm BB cap. I think maybe my improvised crimp did not hold and there was an incomplete burn of the powder charge.

Anyways, I consider myself very lucky to get this 38 rimfire shooting experiment done in between rain showers up here in the Bonnyville/Cold Lake area.
I did all of this at the Bonnyville range. I'm thinking a .375 roundball should tighten things up on the target.
I'm hoping this will open doors for other owners of 38 rimfire firearms, that are safe enough to shoot.
I never had a burst case, but occassionally had a hangup on the cylinder, from the blackened cotton of a fired case, seizing the cylinder timing, as I pulled back the SA hammer to #### the gun and advance the cylinder.
This happened sometimes, but only twice in 11 shots. I tried greasepaper too, instead of the cotton, but had one misfire. The cotton seemed to work better for relaible ignition I think so myself. And held the loaded cartridge fast inside the cylinder.
There is one or two shots that I just cannot account for. Who knows where they went?? Not me.....
I cannot find my calipers right now, but if my memory serves me, the bullets they were .360 diameter. I call this a probable cause for internmittent accuracy. I tried this so others may get the idea to make some noise at the range with thier very old and little wheelguns that are in good enough condition to actually fire.

Anyways............something to share on a rainy day.

Cheers!
 
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Hey thats neat where do you get them 9mm Acorn caps from ?
This could be a reason to keep a couple 38 Rf revolvers i have.
Great pics to. :)
 
This is an old thread, but I'm kind of kicking around the idea of using an RWS 9mm flobert short round for the round ball shot. Using this live but empty case as a mere primer. Then muzzleloading into the cylinder, 'loose' BP in front, topped off with a round ball and crisco or it's equilavant, just like a cap&ball sixgun. Only hitch I can foresee is the loose fit of the short 9mm case. Maybe a wrap of tape or paper for a tighter fit maybe? Maybe even 000 buckshot pellets for a .36 calibre projectile. (looks like that's too loose, got to find .375 RB)
Won't be uber fast reloads, but could be fun at the range.

Where you get theses 9mm Rf things /
How about a 38 sp case drilled out the back will the 9 mm case press/ fit in the shortened 38 sp case just like a 22 in a 32 Rf case that you see on CGN ?
Theses are the perfect rf primer we just gota figger out which parent case to fit them in.
I dont know how loose they fit in the 38 Rf chambers ?

I checked a fired 38 Sp case i have fits right into a 38 Rf chamber so if theses 9 mm things can be fitted into the back of a 38 sp case then you can use shortened 38 Sp cases and 38 Sp SWC bullets with BP loads.
Turns every 38 Rf gun back into a reloadable shooter if them 9Mm cases arnt imposible to buy.
 
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