Good semi-auto "hunting" rifles?

Amphibious said:
They do not exist. They are strictly for use by Mall Ninja's and Ontario Deer hunters :D
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I think you held your breath a little to long on that last dive Phib....:eek:
Bolt actions can be just as dysfunctional as the worst semi...when in the wrong hands;)
 
Amphibious said:
This is the problem I have with semi & hunting. to often it is a crutch for poor shooting. Just keep throwing lead down range at a fast pace and you're bound to hit something!

you need a "fast handling" rifle? why a semiauto? bet a bolt gun swings just as easy as a semi... and the the time it takes you to pull the trigger is the same... .. oh you mean Fast RATE of firing... ah.... gotcha..... hmmmm....

if you like the idea of having a quick second shot, well good for you. if you NEED a quick second shot, maybe you should spend more time at the range....

FLAME ON!!! :D
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Well you sure wouldn't make any friends in an Ont deer camp Amp, maybe BC is a good place for you:p When your on a watch & 2, 3 or even 4 deer come trotting out & you made your perfect wonderfull ONE shot when you'd be expected to get at least 2 deer for the pot, you'd probably be sent packin:D something more than just "fast handling" is required!
But then I never could understand how some-one that sits in a stand for hrs waiting for a perfect shot on a perfect deer could find that somehow exciting! Nor can I see any hunting or shooting skill involved!
To each their own:rolleyes: just don't condone what you know nothing about or are to close minded to see:eek:

Flame you say! maybe it's just a case of "don't know, don't wanna know":D
 
although its a bit expensive and a horrible thing to suggest but an svt-40 would make a good hunting gun. the thing thats awful about it is bubbaing(is that a word) of a milsurp to mount the scope ect. 7.62x54 is just 308 rimmed nasty. if a guy could find one allready chopped it could be good to carry in the bush.
 
Thanks

Thanks for your replies.

This is the problem I have with semi & hunting. to often it is a crutch for poor shooting. Just keep throwing lead down range at a fast pace and you're bound to hit something!

you need a "fast handling" rifle? why a semiauto? bet a bolt gun swings just as easy as a semi... and the the time it takes you to pull the trigger is the same... .. oh you mean Fast RATE of firing... ah.... gotcha..... hmmmm....

if you like the idea of having a quick second shot, well good for you. if you NEED a quick second shot, maybe you should spend more time at the range....
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I think it's a bit strong to assume any one with a semi auto is just not a good shot by default. I've seen some mall ninjas and military guys with pretty good aim. Also, how do know it has to do with speed? I like to shoot my semi auto 22 at a casual pace really. Maybe I'm just to lazy to cycle a bolt myself, and want a gun that does it for me. :p
Really though, I was just curious. The BAR is the only semi hunter that has really peaked my interest. I think based on feedback I've received, it's probably a great rifle. Reports on the 7400 are mixed anyway, and the Winchester 100 is long out of production, and not that common. I've tried a couple of the SKS and other surplus rifles, but they're heavy, not very scope ready, ammo is often hard to get and corrosive, and some are not accurate. If I go semi, BAR would seem to be the way. :)
 
senior said:
But then I never could understand how some-one that sits in a stand for hrs waiting for a perfect shot on a perfect deer could find that somehow exciting! Nor can I see any hunting or shooting skill involved!
...just don't condone what you know nothing about or are to close minded to see:eek:

:D
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Pot calling the kettle black?
 
abbaswede said:
I often hear various semi autos maligned for jamming and poor accuracy. I have to admit, I don't have a great deal of experience with semi auto hunting style rifles. What of these Browning BARs, Rem 7400s, Win 100s? Are any of the "Civilian" semis good shooters?
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I have noticed that for our type of weather cold humid and wet the best models are european made. I have had very bad experiences with American rifles but eversince I tried the Russian I will never go back.

There are 2 distributers of Russian Firearms in Canada
http://baikalcanada.com/home.htm and http://armrus.com/e_about.php. I have delt with Armrus. They have a wider variaty of firearms and they are on my way to work and Valery the owner is extremly helpful. He never pressures you and spends the time to explain all features of any weapon he has in stock.

I prefer a bolt action or slide/crank action. I think semi autos take away from the sport. It is as if going hunting with an assault rifle. There is no sport in that
 
jwillmoore said:
I think semi autos take away from the sport. It is as if going hunting with an assault rifle. There is no sport in that
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What is wrong with taking a single well placed shot with a semi-auto as opposed to a bolt action? With attitudes like yours there will soon be no "sport" for any of us.
 
senior said:
maybe it's just a case of "don't know, don't wanna know":D
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Been on quite few deer hunts in Ontario. There is a reason I moved west :p
but then again I also wouldn;t shed a tear if the entire province slid into hudson's bay ;)
 
Hope I don't get hung for this...but my favorite back-up rifle is a mint condition FN49 in 8mm, utterly dependable in any weather, and its taken mule deer and caribou with a single shot, a nice bull moose with two rounds.
It feeds smoothly with anything that goes in the mag and is no more difficult to maintain than any other rifle in my cabinet....sure it weighs about 10 lbs., but so does my .375 or my .458.
It has never shot factory loads as long as I've had it, and I get at least 7 or 8 reloads out of a case before its chewed up too much.
For me its a great packing gun...can't hurt it.
The big secret is to adjust the gas system for the load being used...loves 200 gr. Nosler Accubonds, and RL 15 or RL 19 or 4064.

Cheers...Kevan
 
Amphibious said:
Been on quite few deer hunts in Ontario. There is a reason I moved west :p
but then again I also wouldn;t shed a tear if the entire province slid into hudson's bay ;)
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Not the whole province, just Toronto. Some of us do prefer hunting in North west Ontario, in the middle of @#$% nowhere, with our bolt action guns. I've taken 7 deer in the last 3 years and fired a total of 9 shots. Only two 230lb bucks needed a kill shot.

I don't like being lumped in with the "spray-and-pray" hunters.
 
blargon said:
Not the whole province, just Toronto. Some of us do prefer hunting in North west Ontario, in the middle of @#$% nowhere, with our bolt action guns. I've taken 7 deer in the last 3 years and fired a total of 9 shots. Only two 230lb bucks needed a kill shot.

I don't like being lumped in with the "spray-and-pray" hunters.
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I think he meant the parts of Ontario that keep electing our Liberal government.
 
Hunt with what you feel you should hunt.
using a semi has nothing to do with one's ability to place a shot.
Many a time folks rush the first one in the field just because they "feel" the need for a follow up. The second one would be at least as poor aimed as the first one.

Nothing replaces the time at the range. Set up 6 targets - or whatever your mag holds +1 and try to shoot each one to count. Reload for the last one.
See what you've got and try the same with a bolt rifle.
Have someone time you on both trials.
Only then, please, judge an honest user of semiautos.
Or you've already set up your mind that Ontarians like gut-shot animals and can't aim for $&it?
I like both bolt & old heavy military semis. The feel of my Mauser k98 in the woods canot be replaced by any Remmy, however lighter, shorter or faster handling it may be. The M14 does tickle me in the same way.
 
I've had bolt actions fail on me and semi's too. It can ruin a hunt or if a bear is charging you much worse. I'll take my semi's anyday though over my bolts . I never had a problem wiith my BAR.
 
Go over to the Black rifles forum and tlel those boys that using a semi is to make up for poor marksmanship!!:p :D

I would bet you large that there are plenty of semi shooters over there that could easily kick your bolt action ass with thier semi's!!!;)

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I have a Belgium BAR Grade II in .308 win.It doesn't matter if it's +30 or -30,factory or reloads she works great.Like others have said keep her clean (gas port etc;) and no problems.Also not for sale.:)
 
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